Stuff to do to the Amen break?

danielpetry · Post by **danielpetry** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:07 pm

I was just wondering if anyone has any tips/cool ideas of things that you can do with the Amen break in ableton... the kind of stuff that Venetian Snares or Sh*tmat do, really twist it up, with those kind of rising pitched snares and stuff... I am playing around with clip transposition and offset envelopes at the moment, as well as the clip repeat brace, sounds a bit of a mess though so if anyone has any hints of how to make it sound good they'd be welcome, generally I would like to know what the archetypal stuff to do to it is, but also if anyone has anything else that they do or know of, that would be good too

Cheers

Dan

kooki415 · Post by **kooki415** » Mon May 28, 2007 5:01 am

cut it up into various lengths, drop the cuts in impulse and then drink some coffee.

onslaught · Post by **onslaught** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:23 pm

Lots of good info here http://breakbeat.hattrixx.co.uk/ While it doesn't use Live, I'm sure you can use your smarts and translate.
Best tip I can give is practise.

fatrabbit · Post by **fatrabbit** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:43 pm

Best tip is to not use the Amen break.

RhythmSickness · Post by **RhythmSickness** » Mon May 28, 2007 2:49 pm

I think the amen break would make a mighty fine lampshade.

if you are going to use it in a tune, chop it into its constituent parts and sequence it as individual hits.

It has all been done though. hence the lampshade.

to get a good idea what people like squarepusher, etc do with it, once you've chopped it up, look at what the stuff they did with it looks like, then look at your sample.

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Mon May 28, 2007 3:11 pm

fatrabbit wrote:Best tip is to not use the Amen break.

lol.... why?has it ever been used before?

Rogue Scrunt · Post by **Rogue Scrunt** » Mon May 28, 2007 3:35 pm

best thin to do to the amen break....

leave it alone.

it is like the really hot girl at a club night,

that you see go home with a different set of dudes every weekend.

seriously,

there are thousands of other breaks to cut up.

Frankie · Post by **Frankie** » Mon May 28, 2007 4:43 pm

Rogue Scrunt wrote:best thin to do to the amen break....

leave it alone.

it is like the really hot girl at a club night,

that you see go home with a different set of dudes every weekend.

seriously,

there are thousands of other breaks to cut up.

ahahahah

+909

pux · Post by **pux** » Mon May 28, 2007 6:22 pm

theres a really great little video called,....wait lemme go see if I can find an addy on this,...

yup here it is,... that took a minute, any how,....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj0vfU0vFSs

Enjoy.

cosmosuave · Post by **cosmosuave** » Mon May 28, 2007 8:17 pm

fatrabbit wrote:Best tip is to not use the Amen break.

Amen...

danielpetry · Post by **danielpetry** » Mon May 28, 2007 8:25 pm

Ha ha rogue

still pretty fun to piss around with though

my next project is an amen tune, with a 303 bassline

onslaught · Post by **onslaught** » Mon May 28, 2007 10:02 pm

If you like it, use it. Chop it up, it's like a drum kit. People don't stop using certain guitars or drum kits just because they've been used many times before.

glu · Post by **glu** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:49 am

onslaught wrote: People don't stop using certain guitars or drum kits just because they've been used many times before.

but people generally don't use the same 5 second guitar sample in every other song in one particular genre of music.

Lord Kahn · Post by **Lord Kahn** » Tue May 29, 2007 1:33 pm

Rogue Scrunt wrote:best thin to do to the amen break....

leave it alone.

How else would you know if a song's Drum 'n' Bass or not?

Rogue Scrunt · Post by **Rogue Scrunt** » Tue May 29, 2007 2:03 pm

onslaught wrote:If you like it, use it. Chop it up, it's like a drum kit. People don't stop using certain guitars or drum kits just because they've been used many times before.

spoken like someone who has an amen track hi-lighted on their website