Detachable Windows please...

mal-T · Post by **mal-T** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:59 pm

bagginz wrote:

Er... how would the ability to optionally a couple of windows negatively impact on you? If you didn't want to detatch them then don't.

WORD!!!!!

The Option to detach MUST BE THERE in any professional studio software, no doubt about it!

If the implemantation is too complicated for some reason ii cannot think of,......................
MAybe its even enough if the ableton programmers would take some time, sit in front of 2 screens and look for a solution. It doesnt have to be real detaching, i dont care, maybe just optimizing the surface so that, f.i. effects on the bottom wont be splitted in the mittble ob a reverb knob.

GREATZ

MobiusB · Post by **MobiusB** » Fri May 18, 2007 4:35 pm

For anyone here that is saying no to it at all, please go try to use two monitors for like 10 minutes with Live. THEN see if you have a change in opinion about the option.

I agree with the poster about not wanting Live to turn into Cubase, but that's also going from one extreme to the other. Even if I could just have the current arrangement view on one screen, and the track and mixers on the other, I would be happy with that alone.

Single interface with single monitor, especially when gigging, is great yes. But in the studio this is a hindrance and is a necessary option on any serious DAW.

-M

Josh Von · Post by **Josh Von** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:26 pm

MobiusB wrote:For anyone here that is saying no to it at all, please go try to use two monitors for like 10 minutes with Live. THEN see if you have a change in opinion about the option.

Detachable / reconfigurable interface parts would probably vi for the #1 most useful and positive change for this software

Especially for a program called "Live". And anyone that uses it for production as well for that matter.

Who would not find this useful? I dont get it

HUGE +1 on this one

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Josh Von · Post by **Josh Von** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:28 pm

MobiusB wrote: Single interface with single monitor, especially when gigging, is great yes

Also, single interface with totally reconfigurable / movable elements is even better for a custom live setup.

Which this software is all about: customizing a live performance setup and creativity

Again: who would not find this ability useful? Is it lack of imagination or something else that makes people fight against this

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MobiusB · Post by **MobiusB** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:45 pm

Josh Von wrote:
MobiusB wrote: Single interface with single monitor, especially when gigging, is great yes

Also, single interface with totally reconfigurable / movable elements is even better for a custom live setup.

Which this software is all about: customizing a live performance setup and creativity

Again: who would not find this ability useful? Is it lack of imagination or something else that makes people fight against this

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Great point. Clarifies my thinking on this. Where Cubase goes wrong is the different windows are not dockable. So they just float wherever and it can get to be a mess. Maybe the way to control this is to be able to make your own custom screens but the parts can't freefloat, or staying with my original point have the option of being docked or free float. Because I'm sure someone out there can name their own personal reasons why they would want free floating parts. I'm just not one of them. Ableton's interface is a huge reason that I have gone from being a pretty heavy Cubase user to almost not using it at all because 95% of everything I need to do I can now do in Live. 6 was a gigantic move forward towards being a true DAW in my opinion. Not completely there yet but getting damn close.

-M

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Fri May 18, 2007 6:11 pm

what if you could 'run' multiple instances of the same set?

so lets say you open a set 3 times you could then decide what to show in each instance..

Josh Von · Post by **Josh Von** » Fri May 18, 2007 6:44 pm

MobiusB wrote:. Where Cubase goes wrong is the different windows are not dockable. So they just float wherever and it can get to be a mess.

Exactly. #1 reason why i stopped using it

Maybe the way to control this is to be able to make your own custom screens but the parts can't freefloat, or staying with my original point have the option of being docked or free float.

Exactly

They should be locked to a 2 dimensional grid and cannot float or overlap

Remember the little plastic game with the color cubes on a flat square that you had to shift around to solve it?

Like that, with the ability to detach certain elements to a new screen, and hide others completely that you dont use

Again -- how incredibly useful this would be for production and live performance ... cannot calculate it

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snakedogman · Post by **snakedogman** » Sat May 19, 2007 12:04 pm

I think the Adobe guys got it right with the interface introduced in After Effects 7

All the interface elements can be moved around, tabbed, docked or made floating if you'd like. When everything is docked is works pretty much like the current Live interface, with the difference that you can move all the elements around and dock them elsewhere. It works on multiple monitor setups as well, very nice.

duffcat · Post by **duffcat** » Mon May 28, 2007 2:27 pm

Absolutely ++++1 on detachable windows. I have three monitors and I could definitely make use of them.

Here is one elegant example. Set one monitor to Arrange view and the other to Session view. Uue the third monitor for clip editing o midi editing. -C

Idonotlikebroccoli · Post by **Idonotlikebroccoli** » Mon May 28, 2007 4:33 pm

That adobe screenie looks really good. I also think that tabs could be a cool interface solution

alvaro · Post by **alvaro** » Mon May 28, 2007 7:43 pm

Seriously, this subject has been many many times discussed... please do a search and try to keep the same request on the same thread, for the sake of the subforum cleanliness.

P.S. I have two TFT's... of course i support the detachable views suggest. In full screen mode (F11) too.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:44 am

Bumping this.

I've got a monitor sitting on a table right next to my iMac. It isn't being used right now, but the ability to "undock" and drag across the wave view, the midi editor, and the mix view would be perfect.

And of course those who don't need this feature don't need to use it. For production though, it would be very useful - especially concerning the midi editor!

Mr Lager · Post by **Mr Lager** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:13 pm

Session view and arrangement view as detachable would be amazing
Im amazed this hasn't been implemented already
pressing TAB is fine but still..

kabelton · Post by **kabelton** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:06 am

Having just one window was the most improvement for a DAW.

So, please...dont change this!

forge · Post by **forge** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:20 am

jasper wrote:yuck- sorry but this is a

NO DETACHABLE WINDOWS vote.

ONE WINDOW is a HUGE reason, if not The MAIN reason why I, and everyone else who uses Live while PERFORMING, love this program.

Do you wanna be on stage in front of 600/more people, your 8-bar drum fill kicks in, and you.... are frantically searching for your reverb unit's detached window ?

I know you don't

ironically this is exactly why I think we need it

or at least saveable screen sets

I guess you haven't got too deep in racks - I guess on stage you wouldnt want to, but that frantically searching for reverb example you gave is about 10 times worse when you are trying to find it somewhere deep inside a rack

since racks we absolutely need a way to manage the views, it's way too cramped

Detachable Windows please...

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