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JahGuide
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by JahGuide » Mon May 28, 2007 7:35 pm
chrysalis33rpm wrote:
Do you think a black african has more legitimacy to claim hip hop than a white new yorker?
YES.
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knotkranky
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by knotkranky » Mon May 28, 2007 7:36 pm
The black hip hop world is not getting stolen from. Ask any of the black music business peeps. They are rolling in money and are loving every million dollar per minute of it.
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Ragamuffin
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by Ragamuffin » Mon May 28, 2007 7:37 pm
even black hot potatoe's are the same as white ones under the skin....
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kb420
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by kb420 » Mon May 28, 2007 7:40 pm
This is ridiculous.
White folks never want to give black folks credit for anything positive or creative.
I once had a co-worker try to convince me that Elvis was the first rapper.
Case closed.
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by CWoodOne » Mon May 28, 2007 7:46 pm
JahGuide wrote:Blacks artistic expressions have hijacked fro day one. ITS stealing when you are your race pretend you created the art form you practice without giving respect where it is due, respect to its origins. The idea that blacks invented something SCARES the shit out of white people. Why? It negates the idea that we are inferior and whats more terrifying than that to white people. When was the last time you heard blacks given credit for house, techno etc. To mention that shit alone will fuck with your superiority complex on so many levels. For example I was reading a magazine the other day that said Phil Spector invented Dub Music. Can you believe that shit? Phil Spector not King Tubby invented Dub. Do you know how serous that statement is, that Phil Spector may have invented Dub Music. Whats next Bach may have invented Rap, Reggae etc.
Sure agree with you on that one, pal
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knotkranky
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by knotkranky » Mon May 28, 2007 7:47 pm
JahGuide wrote:chrysalis33rpm wrote:
Do you think a black african has more legitimacy to claim hip hop than a white new yorker?
YES.
Are black music labels with white artists committing treason?
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nathannn
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by nathannn » Mon May 28, 2007 7:47 pm
kb420 wrote:This is ridiculous.
White folks never want to give black folks credit for anything positive or creative.
I once had a co-worker try to convince me that Elvis was the first rapper.
Case closed.
what is black history month then?
case closed
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by kb420 » Mon May 28, 2007 7:50 pm
LOL!
I don't know. You tell me. What is black history month?
A few tv commercials?
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chrysalis33rpm
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by chrysalis33rpm » Mon May 28, 2007 7:51 pm
b0unce wrote:chrysalis33rpm wrote:
I sample a couple bars of some obscure black 70s funk guitar and combine it with beats...am I ripping some black man off, or giving props?
How do you make the call?
what do you think ?
Hey, I asked you first
To me, it depends on whether you're true to the game, deep in the feel, respectful of the history of the music...and numerous other qualifiers which are difficult to certify, but, you know it when you feel it!
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by nathannn » Mon May 28, 2007 7:53 pm
kb420 wrote:LOL!
I don't know. You tell me. What is black history month?
A few tv commercials?
awww

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by chrysalis33rpm » Mon May 28, 2007 7:55 pm
JahGuide wrote:chrysalis33rpm wrote:
Do you think a black african has more legitimacy to claim hip hop than a white new yorker?
YES.
OK, so why?
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by kb420 » Mon May 28, 2007 7:59 pm
With the constant threat of terrorism in America right now, you would think that black and white folks that have been fighting like cats and dogs for centuries now would come to some new understanding and appreciation for each other.
I thought that was something good that actaully came out of 9/11. It seemed like it for a while, but it didn't last. Now eveyone is back to the hate that has made this country what it is.
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chrysalis33rpm
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by chrysalis33rpm » Mon May 28, 2007 8:02 pm
Ragamuffin wrote:even black hot potatoe's are the same as white ones under the skin....
True that.
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by nathannn » Mon May 28, 2007 8:03 pm
kb420 wrote:With the constant threat of terrorism in America right now, you would think that black and white folks that have been fighting like cats and dogs for centuries now would come to some new understanding and appreciation for each other.
I thought that was something good that actaully came out of 9/11. It seemed like it for a while, but it didn't last. Now eveyone is back to the hate that has made this country what it is.
i dont want to hate anyone SEROUSLY!
i do however get fed up with "The white man stole from me" shit
or "blacks are still slaves" thats racism right there.
i dont owe any race anything.
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by JahGuide » Mon May 28, 2007 8:05 pm
knotkranky wrote:JahGuide wrote:chrysalis33rpm wrote:
Do you think a black african has more legitimacy to claim hip hop than a white new yorker?
YES.
Are black music labels with white artists committing treason?
Treason? Haha. The point is I cant go to Japan learn how to play the Shamisen and behave as if the Japanese had nothing to do with my development. Imagine me not giving any respect or credit to the Japanese. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp. Superiority Complex maybe. The inferior ones created something you like?