Paris - bahahahaha!

corygilbert · Post by **corygilbert** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:28 am

but to be fair, we've all spent some time in the big bad world of unconcious living.
maybe she will be a happier person from this experience.
Maybe she was happy and fully concious before this experience, one never knows.
It's easy to say that a life of privilage and fame is more than reason to be satisfied, but we also know that that is seldom the case.
Honestly, no matter how much I may personally think someone is not grounded and appreciative of their lot in life, it's hard for me to expound that thought into fact, not knowing for sure.
ie: I don't know this person, she may be (and I hope) is a very good person.
I'm saying basically, that without knowing someone personally, (and even then, not so much) one never really understands where another is coming from.
That's why it's always better to err on the side of empathy.
She probablly does need some time off from the lifestyle she's living, she probably does need to grow up and learn that she's not exempt from the cosmic laws that govern us all.
But, as loving people we should not hold her celebrity (however exacted by her in the first place) against another her as another human being.
I agree, that greed and superiority complexes should be rationalized and dealt with.
Anyone who considers themselves above other living things is making a huge mistake and will ultimately pay for that misgiving.
I just think that (although we are elements of that justice) we, on a larger scale, should encourage good behavior and allow the "karma" of constant reality govern the consequences of misbehavior.
I see I've gotten myself into a corner here,
basically, I hate rich, pompous, people too, (obviously) but my concious tells me that regardless of someones privledges, (for me) the basic laws of humand kindness abide.
Don't judge without merit, meaning we all can be faulted the same things.
Don't give power to the things you hate by allowing them to influence your opinions about others or ideas.
ie: Just because she's rich and all doesn't mean she doesnt' fuck up, (she should pay for her mistakes like the rest of us, but it doesnt mean she should pay more, the fact she isn't willing, or doesnt think she should pay as much is irrelevent.
she is mistaken in that regard, we shouldn't follow her mistake and irrationally decide that she deserves more punishment for her hubris.)
She fucked up, she should pay, we should be making music.
end rant
please dont' rip me a new one, but obviously, when one speaks, one invites differences of opinion.

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:23 am

It's up to Paris how she deals with this. I hope it's like the kind of bad acid trip where you find yourself through the suffering. I'm glad she's in hell right now, but deep down I really do hope that it wakes her the fuck up.

Oscar F · Post by **Oscar F** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:55 am

" That's HOT !!!!!!! "

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:41 pm

corygilbert wrote:but to be fair, we've all spent some time in the big bad world of unconcious living.
maybe she will be a happier person from this experience.
Maybe she was happy and fully concious before this experience, one never knows.
It's easy to say that a life of privilage and fame is more than reason to be satisfied, but we also know that that is seldom the case.
Honestly, no matter how much I may personally think someone is not grounded and appreciative of their lot in life, it's hard for me to expound that thought into fact, not knowing for sure.
ie: I don't know this person, she may be (and I hope) is a very good person.
I'm saying basically, that without knowing someone personally, (and even then, not so much) one never really understands where another is coming from.
That's why it's always better to err on the side of empathy.
She probablly does need some time off from the lifestyle she's living, she probably does need to grow up and learn that she's not exempt from the cosmic laws that govern us all.
But, as loving people we should not hold her celebrity (however exacted by her in the first place) against another her as another human being.
I agree, that greed and superiority complexes should be rationalized and dealt with.
Anyone who considers themselves above other living things is making a huge mistake and will ultimately pay for that misgiving.
I just think that (although we are elements of that justice) we, on a larger scale, should encourage good behavior and allow the "karma" of constant reality govern the consequences of misbehavior.
I see I've gotten myself into a corner here,
basically, I hate rich, pompous, people too, (obviously) but my concious tells me that regardless of someones privledges, (for me) the basic laws of humand kindness abide.
Don't judge without merit, meaning we all can be faulted the same things.
Don't give power to the things you hate by allowing them to influence your opinions about others or ideas.
ie: Just because she's rich and all doesn't mean she doesnt' fuck up, (she should pay for her mistakes like the rest of us, but it doesnt mean she should pay more, the fact she isn't willing, or doesnt think she should pay as much is irrelevent.
she is mistaken in that regard, we shouldn't follow her mistake and irrationally decide that she deserves more punishment for her hubris.)
She fucked up, she should pay, we should be making music.
end rant
please dont' rip me a new one, but obviously, when one speaks, one invites differences of opinion.

Not going to tear you a new one, but....

People deserve the fate they make for themselves, Paris is filthy rich, and has very publicly advertised herself as a hedonist with no deeper thinking than that. Seem to remember a "got cocaine?" t-shirt etc.
Basically she's well known for being a spoiled rich girl, and I find that with 6 billion people on this planet, my sympathies for her whimpering spoiled pouting about getting in trouble for breaking the law three times is nil. I thought she was getting harsher treatment than a normal person until I read that she got pulled over twice for driving a on a suspended license after getting caught driving drunk, lesser people would serve MORE time for this, not less.
If she goes to real rehab, and stays away from drugs and alcohol, that would be very cool I think, but she doesn't have the moral strength of character to do that. It's possible, but my guess is Paris will be just like Courtny Love until the bitter end, a walking poster child of a drugged up drama queen.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:52 pm

Machinesworking wrote:Basically she's well known for being a spoiled rich girl, and I find that with 6 billion people on this planet, my sympathies for her whimpering spoiled pouting about getting in trouble for breaking the law three times is nil. I thought she was getting harsher treatment than a normal person until I read that she got pulled over twice for driving a on a suspended license after getting caught driving drunk, lesser people would
serve MORE time for this, not less.

I'm 100% with you here!!! I didn't know she was caught twice until you said something...

Machinesworking wrote: If she goes to real rehab, and stays away from drugs and alcohol, that would be very cool I think, but she doesn't have the moral strength of character to do that. It's possible, but my guess is Paris will be just like Courtny Love until the bitter end, a walking poster child of a drugged up drama queen.

Disagree here though - no one really knows her and how strong a character this woman really has - she puts on a character for the camera but I don't believe the people on the other side of the camera really know what she's truely capable of

telekom · Post by **telekom** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:51 pm

For every moment we spend thinking about a drunk driving millionaire doing 2 months in jail, we're kinda forgetting about people like Aun San Suu Kyi... who never did anything wrong except speak up against a repressive regime (Myanmar/Burma). Been under house arrest for about 15 years now I think. And never got caught driving under the influence...

...just a thought... she could easily represent 2 million, 5 million, 10 million people around the world in prison for speaking in favour of basic human rights. So no. I'm not worried about Paris.

corygilbert · Post by **corygilbert** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:47 pm

just to be for sure clear, I agree that everyone deserves to reap what they sow,
I just don't personally want to justify glee at anyone's misfortune, however well deserved.
And I 100% agree that there a millions of people unjustly incarcerated every day, and for a very long time. And that they deserve our attention much more indeed.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:50 pm

corygilbert wrote:And I 100% agree that there a millions of people unjustly incarcerated every day, and for a very long time. And that they deserve our attention much more indeed.

millions of people unjustly incarcerated EVERY DAY?

how exactly can I help these hundreds of millions of people by paying attention to them? sounds like a "support our troops" kind of thing where "support" really means "do nothing at all"

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:23 am

ethios4 wrote:It's up to Paris how she deals with this. I hope it's like the kind of bad acid trip where you find yourself through the suffering. I'm glad she's in hell right now, but deep down I really do hope that it wakes her the fuck up.

Oh you sad little sack of jealousy but the lot of your are equally a bunch of sad jealous whining little useless sacks of turtle cack.

Have none of you ever met a ray of sunshine?

pulsoc · Post by **pulsoc** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:03 am

Johnisfaster wrote:millions of people unjustly incarcerated EVERY DAY?

how exactly can I help these hundreds of millions of people by paying attention to them? sounds like a "support our troops" kind of thing where "support" really means "do nothing at all"

From http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/about/crime_summary.html

"The FBI estimated that, in 2005, law enforcement agencies nationwide made about 14.1 million arrests."

That's about 5.2% of the population of the U.S. in 1 year. Divide by 365 for .014% of the U.S. population getting arrested every day. Extrapolate to the 6.6 billion worldwide and you get 92.4 million arrests per day. Granted, the U.S. is probably more militarized than most European countries, but China has a far more repressive regime and they have a billion of the world population.

So my guess is it's even more than Cory's off-the-cuff guess.

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:09 am

pulsoc wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:millions of people unjustly incarcerated EVERY DAY?

how exactly can I help these hundreds of millions of people by paying attention to them? sounds like a "support our troops" kind of thing where "support" really means "do nothing at all"
From http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/about/crime_summary.html

"The FBI estimated that, in 2005, law enforcement agencies nationwide made about 14.1 million arrests."

That's about 5.2% of the population of the U.S. in 1 year. Divide by 365 for .014% of the U.S. population getting arrested every day. Extrapolate to the 6.6 billion worldwide and you get 92.4 million arrests per day. Granted, the U.S. is probably more militarized than most European countries, but China has a far more repressive regime and they have a billion of the world population.

So my guess is it's even more than Cory's off-the-cuff guess.

wow, you convinced me. it just sounds far fetched until you actually look at the numbers you know?

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:14 am

djadonis206 wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:Basically she's well known for being a spoiled rich girl, and I find that with 6 billion people on this planet, my sympathies for her whimpering spoiled pouting about getting in trouble for breaking the law three times is nil. I thought she was getting harsher treatment than a normal person until I read that she got pulled over twice for driving a on a suspended license after getting caught driving drunk, lesser people would
serve MORE time for this, not less.
I'm 100% with you here!!! I didn't know she was caught twice until you said something...

Machinesworking wrote: If she goes to real rehab, and stays away from drugs and alcohol, that would be very cool I think, but she doesn't have the moral strength of character to do that. It's possible, but my guess is Paris will be just like Courtny Love until the bitter end, a walking poster child of a drugged up drama queen.
Disagree here though - no one really knows her and how strong a character this woman really has - she puts on a character for the camera but I don't believe the people on the other side of the camera really know what she's truely capable of

OK I have to agree with you here. The truth is we don't know what she's like in person. The thing is though from the perspective we get, she's looking a lot like Courtny; really good at getting attention, and really bad at hiding her narcissism and self destructive behavior.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:34 am

telekom wrote:For every moment we spend thinking about a drunk driving millionaire doing 2 months in jail, we're kinda forgetting about people like Aun San Suu Kyi... who never did anything wrong except speak up against a repressive regime (Myanmar/Burma). Been under house arrest for about 15 years now I think. And never got caught driving under the influence...

...just a thought... she could easily represent 2 million, 5 million, 10 million people around the world in prison for speaking in favour of basic human rights. So no. I'm not worried about Paris.

No disrespect to your friend but that's boring news, while on the other end of the spectrum Paris is bigger than boring

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:50 am

I'm sueing ms. hilton......I want my time back.......

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:01 am

Nothing makes me laugh like seeing a grown woman cry.

Hahaha.