Who wants access to Ableton's Python API? .. You? .. Ok!

forge · Post by **forge** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:06 am

mercyplease wrote:
Additv wrote: For the telnet server, just add the LiveTelnet Remote Device, then at cmd: "telnet localhost 23" and you're in!
I got past two pages of this thread and still dont know what the fuck you eedjits are talking about. I know this is software and a degree of techieness know how may be required but read your quote dude!!!!!!!!! Im a music person not a 'BItchin' 1000110 programmer.
come on lad spill the fucking beans in real english so that weirdos like me that can only speak in general terms like kik drum sequence midi notes compressors music music sound synths noises good bad. GET THE PICTURE!!!!!!!!!

the only way it would probably matter to you is if you have a controller that uses OSC

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:16 am

forge wrote:
mercyplease wrote:
Additv wrote: For the telnet server, just add the LiveTelnet Remote Device, then at cmd: "telnet localhost 23" and you're in!
I got past two pages of this thread and still dont know what the fuck you eedjits are talking about. I know this is software and a degree of techieness know how may be required but read your quote dude!!!!!!!!! Im a music person not a 'BItchin' 1000110 programmer.
come on lad spill the fucking beans in real english so that weirdos like me that can only speak in general terms like kik drum sequence midi notes compressors music music sound synths noises good bad. GET THE PICTURE!!!!!!!!!
the only way it would probably matter to you is if you have a controller that uses OSC

I'm not so sure about that. I am new to this as well, but from what I understand OSC is simply a plus. What I understand this to mean is that we will now be able to interact with under-the-hood features of live, and do things that could not be done before. I have a feeling that I can write some minimal apps (if they don't exist already) that will translate midi commands through max into osc, if needed.

Max is the closest thing to a programming language I know. I dabbled in C and C++ for a brief period of time. This is all very new to me.

QUESTION:
1) I am under the impression that this will only work on a PC right now. Will it run under bootcamp? I actually haven't fired that up yet between performances, installations and moving.

If this is possible will look into trying things out in the near future. Just about finished moving into my new studio and I'm currently really geeked about "new media" related projects.

If not, I will wait until I get a cheap pc. Been planning on it anyway.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:09 am

I will work under Bootcamp.

When you boot you McBook into Windows using Bootcamp, it's a PC. The only difference is the stuff that you don't have Windows drivers for...

forge · Post by **forge** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:25 am

LOFA wrote:
forge wrote:
mercyplease wrote: I got past two pages of this thread and still dont know what the fuck you eedjits are talking about. I know this is software and a degree of techieness know how may be required but read your quote dude!!!!!!!!! Im a music person not a 'BItchin' 1000110 programmer.
come on lad spill the fucking beans in real english so that weirdos like me that can only speak in general terms like kik drum sequence midi notes compressors music music sound synths noises good bad. GET THE PICTURE!!!!!!!!!
the only way it would probably matter to you is if you have a controller that uses OSC
I'm not so sure about that. I am new to this as well, but from what I understand OSC is simply a plus. What I understand this to mean is that we will now be able to interact with under-the-hood features of live, and do things that could not be done before. I have a feeling that I can write some minimal apps (if they don't exist already) that will translate midi commands through max into osc, if needed.

Max is the closest thing to a programming language I know. I dabbled in C and C++ for a brief period of time. This is all very new to me.

QUESTION:
1) I am under the impression that this will only work on a PC right now. Will it run under bootcamp? I actually haven't fired that up yet between performances, installations and moving.

If this is possible will look into trying things out in the near future. Just about finished moving into my new studio and I'm currently really geeked about "new media" related projects.

If not, I will wait until I get a cheap pc. Been planning on it anyway.

well, that was really in response to his saying he didnt want to get into it too deeply

and what I understood the thing most people were getting excited about was sending clip names back to a controller - but I know nothing about this either - just when I've asked what I can use it for that's the answer I've tended to get

Lord Kahn · Post by **Lord Kahn** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:51 am

forge wrote:well, that was really in response to his saying he didnt want to get into it too deeply

and what I understood the thing most people were getting excited about was sending clip names back to a controller - but I know nothing about this either - just when I've asked what I can use it for that's the answer I've tended to get

Obviously the point of this is to allow people to finally check their emails without having to switch out of live.

Nathan Ramella · Post by **Nathan Ramella** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:38 pm

Lord Kahn wrote:
forge wrote:well, that was really in response to his saying he didnt want to get into it too deeply

and what I understood the thing most people were getting excited about was sending clip names back to a controller - but I know nothing about this either - just when I've asked what I can use it for that's the answer I've tended to get
Obviously the point of this is to allow people to finally check their emails without having to switch out of live.

hahah.

Yes. The Ableton Live IMAP+SSL Email Client with anti-spam is our ultimate goal here.

forge · Post by **forge** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:06 pm

dear god no!

Nathan Ramella · Post by **Nathan Ramella** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:17 pm

forge wrote:dear god no!

Sorry, I'm just not a fan of POP..

(SLAM, AND, DUNK)

forge · Post by **forge** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:43 pm

Nathan Ramella wrote:
forge wrote:dear god no!
Sorry, I'm just not a fan of POP..

(SLAM, AND, DUNK)

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:10 pm

is it possible (and allowed?) to decompile the .pyc files which are in the Ableton midi scripts folders?

I had a quick try at opening one in emacs but it looked a real mess

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:13 pm

longjohns wrote:is it possible (and allowed?) to decompile the .pyc files which are in the Ableton midi scripts folders?

I had a quick try at opening one in emacs but it looked a real mess

http://wiki.cobbs.ca/index.php/Decompyle

No idea if it will work for this purpose..

mdk · Post by **mdk** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:24 pm

i used the debian decompyle package (installed on ubuntu) and it works great.

so far it look like the RemoteSL code is the most interesting.

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:41 pm

Thanks, I'll check it out.

from the decompyle website:

only the comments are missing!

great...

Nathan Ramella · Post by **Nathan Ramella** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:14 pm

longjohns wrote:Thanks, I'll check it out.

from the decompyle website:

only the comments are missing!
great...

The stuff Rob King decompiled showed __doc__ and """<things>""" comments...

mdk · Post by **mdk** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:33 pm

same here, docstrings are included.

i used the .deb from here :

http://crypto.riken.go.jp/pub/linux/deb ... decompyle/

if that helps.