Ed Banger / SebastiAn

scientist · Post by **scientist** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:41 pm

www.myspace.com/siriusmo is probably my favorite right now for the uptempo chop/cutup approach. and for slower tempos machine drum can't be beat. i've loved this stuff since i first heard mantronix edit samples in like 1988...there's plenty of the choppy choppy microsample style in the mixes in my sig:

Hedroom · Post by **Hedroom** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:50 pm

forge wrote:
Splashmas wrote:I belieive one of the EdBanger crew posts on here... You might get an answer.
nah dont ask him...he cant even spell pedro!

hehe

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:14 pm

Splashmas wrote:
forge wrote:
Splashmas wrote:I belieive one of the EdBanger crew posts on here... You might get an answer.
nah dont ask him...he cant even spell pedro!
hehe

Wow. Our own Pppppeeeeedddrooo is an Ed Banger?

Neat! I know a rock star!

Oh wait a second. I don't know-know him. I no-know him.

buckman · Post by **buckman** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:30 am

sorry,,, who is pedro? and he's signed to Ed Banger??

zstowasser · Post by **zstowasser** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:57 am

yeah i love the new punk vibe but the hard compression is surely rough on the ears!

couldn't find ed banger on beatport, where to buy the music??

peeddrroo · Post by **peeddrroo** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:09 am

hey guys!
just saw this topic...
well, yes, i've released a couple of records on ed banger (i'm "krazy baldhead"), and yes, i use live for my gigs and productions...

regarding the other members of ed rec, i think sebastian uses cubase and some hardware sampler, and justice uses PT and has a bit of analog gear too.
i can't tell you more, as i don't know actually. but there's indeed a lot of compression going on. and yeah, chopping up samples is probably the way to go to have their sound.
on a side note: justice uses Live for their live shows (not DJ set). definitely worth checking, it sounds very good.
i saw daft punk ysterday and they also use live. needless to say, it was awesome.

90's child · Post by **90's child** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:36 pm

Alot of the French Producers mix their tracks with the stereo master channel compressor on.

This way they can get a "pumping" vibe that would be unachieveable by using a master engineer right at the last stage.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:40 pm

90's child wrote:Alot of the French Producers mix their tracks with the stereo master channel compressor on.

This way they can get a "pumping" vibe that would be unachieveable by using a master engineer right at the last stage.

true

but some of them (daft punk) know how to do it right... some kinda take the fun out.

galo · Post by **galo** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:49 pm

90's child wrote:Alot of the French Producers mix their tracks with the stereo master channel compressor on.

This way they can get a "pumping" vibe that would be unachieveable by using a master engineer right at the last stage.

how is this best done in live?

boraxx · Post by **boraxx** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:50 pm

im seeing daft punk tomorrow in london! cant wait!!

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:22 pm

galo wrote:
90's child wrote:Alot of the French Producers mix their tracks with the stereo master channel compressor on.

This way they can get a "pumping" vibe that would be unachieveable by using a master engineer right at the last stage.
how is this best done in live?

comrpessor II

ratio 25.0

attack = 0

release = 50

threshold fairly low

edit:

just work with kick, snare and bass...

90's child · Post by **90's child** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:34 pm

sweetjesus wrote:
90's child wrote:Alot of the French Producers mix their tracks with the stereo master channel compressor on.

This way they can get a "pumping" vibe that would be unachieveable by using a master engineer right at the last stage.
true

but some of them (daft punk) know how to do it right... some kinda take the fun out.

You know I heard that one of Daft Punk's dad is an old skool mix engineer and he was quite revered in France. He has his old studio in their back garden with all this old analogue gear from the late 70's early 80's and it was the Dad who helped Daft Punk with the production and mixing on all their tracks.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:39 pm

90's child wrote:
sweetjesus wrote:
90's child wrote:Alot of the French Producers mix their tracks with the stereo master channel compressor on.

This way they can get a "pumping" vibe that would be unachieveable by using a master engineer right at the last stage.
true

but some of them (daft punk) know how to do it right... some kinda take the fun out.

You know I heard that one of Daft Punk's dad is an old skool mix engineer and he was quite revered in France. He has his old studio in their back garden with all this old analogue gear from the late 70's early 80's and it was the Dad who helped Daft Punk with the production and mixing on all their tracks.

yup all true

and not to forget a guy called Nilz from the exchange mastering who added the extra thump.

a lot of the new french stuff would sound 100000 times better if it were worked on by some better and dedicated mixing engineers, but its not short on music and creativity by any means.

as it gets commercialised, watch the sound quality improve.

90's child · Post by **90's child** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:55 pm

Yes this is a great point. These days, as I grow older, I'm so much more into music that has character rather than a polished production sound.

(Although I do still have some guilty pleasures like that new Cicada album

)

condra · Post by **condra** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:40 pm

The Ar - I really like what you did with that track. Pretty kool. I think I'll sample it

I think a lot of the stuff on Ed Banger uses not just compression, but distortion, and effects like Supatrigga, as well as some really kool and varied drum programming, sometimes mixing 3/4 beats with 4/4 within the same arrangement.

In a recent interview I read with Justice, they said they use Cubase and Garageband.
"We have a big analogue desk as well: a big Soundcraft, I forget the model number. It doesnt get used any more though, we just do everything inside the computer in Cubase and Garageband"

My only problem is that this stuff has broken into the mainstream, and has a lot of American electro heads jumping on the bandwagon.
The style will not sound as new and fresh to me very soon. I always like to hear new styles which are ahead of the game. Call me a scenester if you like, I dont care.
Ed Banger are not trend followers, they are trend setters, Im sure a lot of those guys will start coming up with kool new styles soon, and the cycle will continue, but Ed Banger will always be ahead of the game.

peeddrroo! Youre Krazy Baldhead?

KOOOL!
I like your remix of "Waiting In Line" by Outlines, especially the rave-esque alarm noises.
I see Skint man Midfield General remixed one of your tracks. That is also very kool.
If you meet Alex Gopher please tell him he is the koolest man alive.

He gave a very generous video interview to FM magazine recently and I really enjoyed it.