zstowasser wrote:i have the mackie hr824 (mk1 aka originals). two pairs actually. bought them about 6 months ago.. they changed my music production for the better. i had event ps6 + s250 15" sub combo before and my music didnt translate, came out muffled.
now with the mackies my music translates perfect to car and club and even laptop speakers! bass, mids and highs! i haven't treated my room at all.. sometimes to get a better feel for bass i have to sit back a bit but thats just to check the overall roundness of the bass.. i wonder if it has to do with not treating my room or just simple physics of low frequencies needing more distance to develop.
i listened to the event asp8s at guitar center and they weren't as clean as the mackies and didnt have enough 250-300hz range and had too much bass and they were muddy
oh also the mackies are not fatiguing at all, unless you're listening to overcompressed music!! and another thing, if a song has too much highs, mids or bass its very easy to tell on the speakers, rather than other speakers making everything sound good.
these speakers are so worth the money, im a huge fan now! oh and one other thing - two big mixing engineers for dance music that i know trust the mackies too! (medway aka jesse skeens (hooj choons) and christian dwiggins (engineroom studios / moonshine records)
i've never heard the adams or dynaudios though.. but i do mostly electronic music and bass is extremely important so the 8inch woofer on the mackies really helps since it goes down to 37".. they bump big time!
overall though, if you know how your monitors reproduce sound you can make it sound good.. just listen to professional music on them and then mimic the results in your songs. however if your speakers dont have much bass, it might not be as much fun to listen to as you mix / produce.. (might not have the right vibe!)
that's cool, zstowasser....glad to hear you're happy with the Mackies! The HR824 sure has been around a long time and definitely a leader, if not THE leader, in the monitor industry. Problem for me on those - they're way too big!! I saw a couple of used ones up for sale on Craigslist at one point, but I couldn't draw myself to get them since I just don't have the space....even 2" width wise is already too much, so for me the Adam's although bigger than what I was looking for....are borderline, but they work in the space I've got available.
When I mentioned about not having that bottom....I meant it doesn't have that bass thumpin' like rap music in cars that you can hear them coming down the street; if you're going that low, you probably are a good candidate for a sub. Lows ARE important to me, so that was the first thing I zeroed in on as I do some hard rock (heavy riffs), but yet I do electronic like you, but I'm not writing music for clubs either....and I do alot of acoustic (6 string & 12 string), so really....I was looking for something with an all around good range with good imaging, but at the same time....I was never able to hear them in the shop or do any kind of A/B comparison. The shops around here, including Guitar Center, just don't have their act together when it comes down to auditioning monitors - that's one thing I'm really disappointed about since they're one of the tools for musicians/studios that costs the most money.
Anyhow....funny you mentioned about the Bass and how it gets deeper while you move back. When I stepped back about 10,11,12 feet from the monitors - I noticed the same thing!!! The bass was actually deeper back there than sitting 1.1/2 - 2 feet away from them. If someone can shed some light on this...that'll be great. My room is really not acoustically fit either, but I'm nearly wall-to-wall here with business files, so I'm probably "ok", but there are 3 filter knobs on the back to fine-tune, so I still have that to look forward to and how they affect the sound.
For those of you following this thread and interested in the Adams - go read the Magazine reviews they have made available on their website. I just read Craig Anderton's review this morning on the A7's in EQ Magazine - and what he said is pretty much how I feel about these - and he's the expert here, not me!
Here's the link to their magazine review page, scroll down to the A7 section and pull up the EQ Mag English Review:
http://www.adam-audio.com/downloads/magazine.htm
Another thing they say that might not give the "first week listen" justice is that everyone say before they reach optimum level...you need to give it time to "break in"; I guess I attribute this thought to the same thing as curing/breaking in a grill = a new grill doesn't cook like a used one! As well....to power up the monitors for a bit before working on them so the power supply and components are warmed up and ready to go.
