transpose dose any 1 know how to use this, to change pitch ?

pepypreece · Post by **pepypreece** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:13 am

I am trying to go harmonic in the mix, and at the moment I have a list of tunes and the keys they are in, I understand transpose will change the pitch in semitones, Is there a simple explanation to how I can go about understanding changing pitch ? for instanace if the song I am playing is in E-Major, and want the song to change it to D-flat how many semitones would I move the transpose ? all being easy, if it sgoing to be to hard please dont tax your brain on my account, lol pepy

3rdordertrauma · Post by **3rdordertrauma** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:43 am

I think its actually a bit more complicated than just changing the pitch. For example E-major is going to contain a different set of note intervals than D-flat... so just simply changing the pitch will not change the key signature. I could have my head up my arse but I think its impossible by simply pitching... You could for example pitch a track from E-major to F-major by simply pitching it up 2 semitones... I think... don't quote me though, I'm not a music theory expert by any means.

Correction: 1 semitone from E to F

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:58 pm

e major implies a scale
d flat does not, it's just a note.

the notes are 3 semitones away

BassTooth · Post by **BassTooth** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:41 pm

i liked pitched snare samples i am thinking they are cool. as well.

Crabbit · Post by **Crabbit** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:33 pm

You can change the key of a musical part within the type of scale (or "mode") just by pitching. For example, if your part is in E maj you can change it to a Db maj by pitching down one semitone. Or E min to C min by pitching down 4 semitones or up 8 semitones. This is because th spacing between the notes (or "intervals") are the same in all scales of the same type.

What you can't do is change from a major scale to a minor scale, or vice versa (or to a different musical mode altogether) because the intervals are different. This means that some notes would have to be pitched up/down by different amounts to others. With pitching you can only change all notes by the same amount.

Note to music theory experts: I apologise for any errors in my use of terminology with regards to scales modes and intervals.

vinkalmann · Post by **vinkalmann** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:41 am

Check out the Rapid Evolution site for some great information on harmonic mixing. Well worth reading!

http://www.mixshare.com/wiki/doku.php?i ... nic_mixing

cheameup · Post by **cheameup** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:18 am

e major down to d flat major = 3 semitones .In my opinion the sound quality is really comprimised if tuning audio .
And doing this isnt doing anything modal as mentioned above . Mode's are concerned with the starting point in a scale and transposing to a different key doesnt change a mode as all intervals are staying the same

3rdordertrauma · Post by **3rdordertrauma** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:08 am

This is a pretty cool site for music theory, ear training and stuff http://www.musictheory.net/

I'd say if you can train your ears to know whats right then you can take some of the mechanics and technical stuff out of it and just feel it.

I agree with cheameup on this... I think pitching can sound worse than just mixing it through... IMO

Crabbit · Post by **Crabbit** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:04 am

Oh yeah, what a dumbass! I was thinking of Eb maj!
However, the link vinkalmann has posted seems to say it all with respect to the context in which we're discussing scales and keys here

Sorry!!