wahhhhhhh, i want my MPC back :(

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Post by ::mic-minimal:: » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:40 pm

Guru is a dope concept indeed and I own it myself but this product has been in a perpetual beta since it came out, fxpansion are very talented developers but you have to wonder why the 'drumsampler' concept is so difficult for them to get off the ground and flying level, I mean come on its a drum sampler with 16 pads and slicing, it could have wiped the competition as it's right up there even in its current state but damn when is it going to be out of beta,all they had to do was fix the audio slicing portion.
for the love of Live

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Post by Angus_FX » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:03 pm

Just FYI - Guru 1.1UB is out of beta now and has been for a couple of weeks. The UB demo is up now too.

1.2 is hitting beta any day now ;)

Best regards,
Angus.
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Post by TITBAG » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:10 pm

guru needs a serious GUI makeover, visually it looks shabby and amateurish with a 1997 aesthetic that I hoped we had lost in pro audio apps

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Post by steve-o » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:50 pm

TITBAG wrote:guru needs a serious GUI makeover, visually it looks shabby and amateurish with a 1997 aesthetic that I hoped we had lost in pro audio apps

What do you suggest as an alternative?

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Post by trip_out » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:48 pm

don't encourage him

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Post by TITBAG » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:02 pm

steve-o wrote:
TITBAG wrote:guru needs a serious GUI makeover, visually it looks shabby and amateurish with a 1997 aesthetic that I hoped we had lost in pro audio apps

What do you suggest as an alternative?
I suggest a GUI makeover for guru.

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Post by dango » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:58 am

TITBAG is trolling. the gui is so sweet in Guru. the workflow is just as speedy as an MPC and the tweakablity is great.

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Post by steve-o » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:07 pm

dango wrote:TITBAG is trolling. the gui is so sweet in Guru. the workflow is just as speedy as an MPC and the tweakablity is great.
Yeah, I agree - I too think the GUI is very good. I was just giving our new ol' bag of titties over here a chance. Perhaps he might of actually had a useful suggestion.

I mean, saying something needs a makeover without actually providing specific suggestions is not really saying much of anything is it?

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Post by stale bread » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:54 pm

exactly, GUru is almost perfect, all competition is either incompetent...Battery= no slicer wtf
heal dragging vapor= no names please.

Guru is the king of the hill
Mac, Mpc, and a Microphone

Thanks for the Slicer Abe.

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Post by noisetonepause » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:10 pm

stale bread wrote:Battery= no slicer wtf
Yeah, if it doesn't have a slicer it might as well be Microsoft Word... which doesn't have a slicer either... useless!!1~
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by OlWright » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:09 am

filterstein wrote:some strange things are said here.
yes, mpc's are hardware, but the hardware only powers the software
which runs on it.
For example the mpc 3000 has motorola 68000 processor in it,
the same as old apple macintoshes.
But the big difference is that it's os is optimized to play a fixed
set of voices with a focus on timing.
Compare this to a off the shelf pc with windows on it,
it does so many different things at once that it's focus might not always
be where it should be.
So since the shuffle on the mpc is actually just software, it should not
be hard to put it in in a sequencer. I remember they used to sell groove templates that would give a midi recording mpc swing.
But it does not give the same results, because of the dedication
to timing that windows or mac don't have.
About the punch; if you sample into the mpc it messes with the start of the sample. It actually starts recording early so you won't miss a bit of attack.
Other than this, ad\da's make a big difference and most sound cards are
focused on clean recordings. For example the old digidesign interfaces (sound tools) don't sound very good compared to a modern card. But what they lack in quality they make up for in presence or impact to the sound.
So i like live, but there is a reason the mpc is a beat machine and sequencer classic. If you ever tried sampling individual sounds of a Roland TR 808 or a TR 909 and tried to recreate the same feel in Live with it then you know what i mean. It's just not the same. Now there might be people who can do it, but most of us are mere mortals.


spot on good sir, I Purchased a 3000 a while ago, after not believing the hype about them, and was previously using the ableton "mpc swing" but since Ive had my 3000 I have started to believe the hype! aint nothing like mpc3000/60 swing/sound, plus its not just a matter of swing algorithms, but as filter said, its the way it process's the rhythm, ohhh and the sequencer on the 3000......what a sexy bitch! ohh man, I love that baby..

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