OT: You heard it here 1st - My Prediction

[dango]

nope.

just a hunch.

the administrations fascist coup on the US is almost complete. but they are loosing support and fast. they need a good ol fashion support booster. Nothing like a false flag to get middle America singing patriotic death chants.

[Hillary Clinton]

Really, it would be simply precious to see you folks go move to one of these Islamic countries (or maybe China) and start you whining. It would be a lucrative pay-per-view reality event.

hmm well ive just spent 5 months in asia, including Kashmir and China (i thought you said Islamic countries?!) and i talked politics with a lot of people there. Strangely we were in agreement about a lot of things

Please disagree with them. In fact, try to hold a prayer session in public. Please ... I double dog dare you!

[Hillary Clinton]

Ah, but the rest of us have to live in the real world!

so by "real world" you presumably mean middle america?

do yourself a favoour and go travelling (in other countries) for a bit, you might find out that the fifth of the worlds population that are muslim are really not as different or evil as you seem to think

Actually, I have quite a few Muslim friends and they pobably get more upset by the type ridiculous commentary in this thread. Want to find someone that hates liberals? Find someone that escaped Vietnam, Korea, Cuba or Soviet Block countries. They have a real appreciation for the American way.

They have a real disdain for people that have nothing to offer society, no skill, no idea or effort. These are the same people that back brutal leaders that supressed them. Mindless thugs are needed to run brutal regimes.

Liberalism = Socialism and Communism. Please go live in one of these countries to learn how wonderful it is - I'll help you out ... it sucks for the vast majority (that are not bought an paid for party members)! There is a reason they all want to come here America offers the best opportunities of any nation in the world for those willing to get off their asses and give it a shot. That's a fact.

Note I have been to these places and it really makes you appreciate the fact that you were born here in the USA. Everyone should have hope.

[Tone Deft]

Ah, but the rest of us have to live in the real world!

so by "real world" you presumably mean middle america?

do yourself a favoour and go travelling (in other countries) for a bit, you might find out that the fifth of the worlds population that are muslim are really not as different or evil as you seem to think

Actually, I have quite a few Muslim friends and they pobably get more upset by the type ridiculous commentary in this thread. Want to find someone that hates liberals? Find someone that escaped Vietnam, Korea, Cuba or Soviet Block countries. They have a real appreciation for the American way.

They have a real disdain for people that have nothing to offer society, no skill, no idea or effort. These are the same people that back brutal leaders that supressed them. Mindless thugs are needed to run brutal regimes.

Liberalism = Socialism and Communism. Please go live in one of these countries to learn how wonderful it is - I'll help you out ... it sucks for the vast majority (that are not bought an paid for party members)! There is a reason they all want to come here America offers the best opportunities of any nation in the world for those willing to get off their asses and give it a shot. That's a fact.

Note I have been to these places and it really makes you appreciate the fact that you were born here in the USA. Everyone should have hope.

Hillary I have no idea who else you post as but one thing's clear from your posts, you hate liberals and your arguments are shallow grandiose wide sweeping attacks with little substance. I know you're not Breqs as some people have stated because Breqs makes succinct, approachable arguments, you could learn a lot from him. I might disagree but that doesn't make either of us right. this is discussion, not a black and white "and the final answer is..." kind of thing. the stuff you write is waaaay out there and seething with hatred towards liberals like me.

as you were, personally I can't take you seriously but have fun by all means, it'd be cool if you could help some n00bs with Live questions too.

[Nod]

Liberalism = Socialism and Communism

Are you actually sure you know what any of those words mean Hilary? Or is the steady depreciation of thought one would associate with any culture that allows a platform for such as O'Reilly really having a knock on effect? Case study: Islamofascism - two words, joined up, that have absolutely nothing to do with one another conceptually or ideologically but succeed in scaring the pants off a large mass of people who don't understand either of them. Now, as to your point:

America was the first nation to construct a constitution conceptually based upon liberalist principles (political, social, economic and cultural merging into what is known as 'modernist' liberalism) - are you suggesting that it's founders were and it is actually a socialist/communist state? Washington, Jefferson, Adams and later Franklin, Madison et al were a bunch of reds?

[forge]

I think even using the bewilderingly ignorant generalised term "liberals" to blanketly label anyone who doesnt support killing thousands of innocent people while you sit in the comfort of your own homes writing on the internet implies a certain kind of simple mindedness I cant really be bothered arguing with

it just saddens me really

but one of the best quotes I've heard from Buddha was in answer to the question of why he doesnt get affected by insults and angry criticism, he answered "if someone gives you a gift and you dont accept it, who owns the gift?"

in the same way I dont accept this fucking idiotic label "liberal" that's thrown about so i can neatly fit into the simplistic, black and white biggoted mindset of some arseholes who want to impose covert fascism on the world

Mussolini said fascism should really be called corporatism because it is about the rule of the corporations - sound familiar?

incidentally, in Australia the "liberal" party is our equivalent of the Republicans

[Tone Deft]

I think even using the bewilderingly ignorant generalised term "liberals" to blanketly label anyone who doesnt support killing thousands of innocent people while you sit in the comfort of your own homes writing on the internet implies a certain kind of simple mindedness I cant really be bothered arguing with

this is why I respect Breqs so much, I don't agree with him but he has clearly thought out his points and is out there doing shit. there is no ultimate right or wrong answer (you're an egomaniac if you think there is), there's just your word and your works. I know some conservatives who are polar opposites of me yet I love hearing their take on the world, it sheds real light on my own. if you can't be challenged to LISTEN you're fooling yourself.

but one of the best quotes I've heard from Buddha was in answer to the question of why he doesnt get affected by insults and angry criticism, he answered "if someone gives you a gift and you dont accept it, who owns the gift?"

omfg, thank you for that, truly.

in the same way I dont accept this fucking idiotic label "liberal" that's thrown about so i can neatly fit into the simplistic, black and white biggoted mindset of some arseholes who want to impose covert fascism on the world

it's those reasons that I will always call myself a liberal's liberal, the more they hate it, the more I am it, bring it, I reject the conservative morals to the bone. 'liberal' has been villified by the same assholes who stole MY country's flag from me and dessimated MY country's military over LIES. fuck them.

incidentally, in Australia the "liberal" party is our equivalent of the Republicans

since the start of the US as a country republicans and democrats have changed sides, I don't recall when it happened but in 1776 the core values of both parties were completely opposite.

lmfao, great post!!!

[Meef Chaloin]

Really, it would be simply precious to see you folks go move to one of these Islamic countries (or maybe China) and start you whining. It would be a lucrative pay-per-view reality event.

hmm well ive just spent 5 months in asia, including Kashmir and China (i thought you said Islamic countries?!) and i talked politics with a lot of people there. Strangely we were in agreement about a lot of things

Please disagree with them. In fact, try to hold a prayer session in public. Please ... I double dog dare you!

what an odd comment. What makes you think that would be a problem?

[forge]

hmm well ive just spent 5 months in asia, including Kashmir and China (i thought you said Islamic countries?!) and i talked politics with a lot of people there. Strangely we were in agreement about a lot of things

Please disagree with them. In fact, try to hold a prayer session in public. Please ... I double dog dare you!

what an odd comment. What makes you think that would be a problem?

how bout we just humour him

okay - the muslim of the world IS in fact the boogey man, and our loving protector GWB is only standing up against this evil threat

people who see the world like whoever is hiding behind this "Hilary clinton" moniker are the in the most desperate need to travel the world and meet a few people that arent W.A.S.Ps

seriously, 6 billion ppl on this plant, something like 1.5 billion are muslim, dont you think if they all really wanted to fuck with "us" then they would have done a bit more to by now??

most people in the world just want to live their lives, provide a future for their children and not be fucked over

there are just as many christians who want to fuck it up for other people, or if there are more muslim fanatic dickheads then it is only because there are more muslims on the planet

any way, this argument has gone round so many times since 9/11 I dont know why I'm taking the time to type this - I guess I havent had a good ole ABleton ploitical OT for a while

[sweetjesus]

any way, this argument has gone round so many times since 9/11 I dont know why I'm taking the time to type this - I guess I havent had a good ole ABleton ploitical OT for a while

keep it up, this time theres a momentum to really bring about some social attitude change.

[Hillary Clinton]

what an odd comment. What makes you think that would be a problem?

Most find execution and beheadings to be a moderate or higher problem

Very interesting to watch people show exceptional tolerance the religions and regimes that harbor no concept of freedom or individual rights and then turn and attack the "free-est" country in the modern world.

It's a real interesting study of the self indulgence we see in American society. Very superficial and very inward looking.

[Meef Chaloin]

thats funny i thought the US had the capital punishment.
go to an islamic country and ask them if they are free instead of wanking over the stars & stripes in your bedroom

[Hilsee]

it will be staged like the gulf of tonkin and 9/11 were.

LAWL!

www.loosechangeguide.com

You can choose to believe that the moronic president and presidency you hate staged it based on some douchebag college kid's bullshit "facts" and quote mining. I'm assuming you'll be biased because you want to believe The Man is after you.

OR

You can take a look at the logical explanations of everything found on that site.

[glu]

Wow, I am just arriving back to the U.S. after six weeks in Costa Rica, no Live 7 announcements...just this same ol' song and dance. I'm writing in my mother's name when I vote for president, its all a big fat joke here. It's like giving you only two colors to choose from when being asked "what is your favorite color?" Red or Blue are your only options.. actually, you don't even get to choose, the electorates in your state know your favorite color in a winner takes all spirit! Fuck that. Mom 2008

While I don't want to hold my ankles and take it like a champ, it is silly to think I have political power in a corporate democracy.

I will at least make a website and post my album online for free so I can get the message out there to as many people as possible.

I have a rough draft finished but I need to upgrade my PC and get start designing the site, along with remixing and allowing myself to call it finished.

[glu]

For fun.. awhile back, I made the track in my sig... it features Bush! It's all about fear! Czech it out!