Afghan detainees routinely tortured by US troops

chrysalis33rpm · Post by **chrysalis33rpm** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:12 pm

rozling wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: I take it this means you couldn't find anything negative to post about Canadians in Afghanistan.
Exactly. Can't believe I f-in wasted my time reading this. Bounce if you're gonna post this garbage @ the ableton forum, do you mind keeping it in one thread ? the I hate Mbreqs/afghaniblog thread or something. the thread title implies there'll be more of these bullshit updates to come....so in the interest of keeping shite to a minimum please consider keeping it contained in one thread.

thanks.

It's not COMPLETE shite. He is concerned about imperialism and torture, which is compassionate and human. But his focus on M. Bréqs is a bit misplaced, IMO.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:16 pm

chrysalis33rpm wrote:
rozling wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: I take it this means you couldn't find anything negative to post about Canadians in Afghanistan.
Exactly. Can't believe I f-in wasted my time reading this. Bounce if you're gonna post this garbage @ the ableton forum, do you mind keeping it in one thread ? the I hate Mbreqs/afghaniblog thread or something. the thread title implies there'll be more of these bullshit updates to come....so in the interest of keeping shite to a minimum please consider keeping it contained in one thread.

thanks.
It's not COMPLETE shite. He is concerned about imperialism and torture, which is compassionate and human. But his focus on M. Bréqs is a bit misplaced, IMO.

posting news from 2004... I expect more from ANYBODY, this is just garbage, is ANYONE not aware of this? shall I start a thread on "the world is round"? this is beyond OT, it's just garbage coming from the guy who asked breqs to ease up on the OT afghanistan threads.

"people are strange..."

EDIT - I take it that bounce just screwed up, a pretty honest mistake.

chrysalis33rpm · Post by **chrysalis33rpm** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:19 pm

OK good point.

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:20 pm

You guys heard of this new amazing food cooking machine called the 'microwave'...

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:45 pm

y'know what? I'd rather hang with b0unce than most of you people.

first of all, everybody who's all like "oh breqs, i don't agree with your reasons and politics, but good for you for following thru..." Fuck you fucking pussies. Do you or don't you believe what you believe? It's one thing to support the poor bastards who are fighting over there because they just wanted to pay for college, but a loud mouth racist fuck who really believes in this bullshit? fuck him, i hope he's pulling shrapnel out of his balls as soon as possible.

to all of the war supporters, just straight up, "fuck you." I don't even give a shit about debating it anymore. go put your money where your mouths are and join breqs, hopefully you'll get roadside bombed too.

word the fuck up, b0unce, fuck that guy and all of his supporters. he's a twat and i don't wish shit for him or anyone else of his ilk. I don't give a shit when that article is from. motherfuckers are still over there and in iraq where they don't belong. Talk to me about it being out dated when my fucking tax dollars aren't paying for it anymore.

.lm.

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:53 pm

ps:

fuck.

.lm.

SMOOTH_LOVIN_CYCLOPS · Post by **SMOOTH_LOVIN_CYCLOPS** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:56 pm

dinsync wrote:
you are such a fucking idiot I can't even begin to explain it.

um, excuse me. not sure where that outburst came from.

I KNOW WHEREZ IT CAME FROM YO IT STARTED WITH YOUR MOTHER. DAT WAS DA FIURST MISTAKE RIGHT DERE YALL. BITCH SHULD HAD A BORSHON.

WERD LIFE BIATCH.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:03 am

leisuremuffin wrote:y'know what? I'd rather hang with b0unce than most of you people.

first of all, everybody who's all like "oh breqs, i don't agree with your reasons and politics, but good for you for following thru..." Fuck you fucking pussies. Do you or don't you believe what you believe? It's one thing to support the poor bastards who are fighting over there because they just wanted to pay for college, but a loud mouth racist fuck who really believes in this bullshit? fuck him, i hope he's pulling shrapnel out of his balls as soon as possible.

to all of the war supporters, just straight up, "fuck you." I don't even give a shit about debating it anymore. go put your money where your mouths are and join breqs, hopefully you'll get roadside bombed too.

word the fuck up, b0unce, fuck that guy and all of his supporters. he's a twat and i don't wish shit for him or anyone else of his ilk. I don't give a shit when that article is from. motherfuckers are still over there and in iraq where they don't belong. Talk to me about it being out dated when my fucking tax dollars aren't paying for it anymore.

.lm.

Ouch.

+ fucking 1

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:08 am

you forgot the other reason breqs gets respect.
he can make a point without swearing at people and berating them.
plus unlike most people here, he's actually researched his material (lm you don't front either) and can discuss it. I find it far more interesting to discuss a topic with someone I disagree with than someone I agree with.

he's here, he's polite, he thinks about his posts, oh and he's into music. fuck man, I'd even get along with bounce if he'd just take his fucking medication and chill out.

but wow, breqs is under your skin. I got into his OT a bit and ducked out when it got all shitty. I'd check back in and all I'd see was him being calm, giving out new ideas, backing his points up and others freaking out, calling him names and being generally rude. guess who wins in that case?

yeah, it's an intense stance to say you want to take arms against a group of people, but armies exist, soldiers exist, there are people out there that have lived in purely military families generation after generation.

fuck it, he's here, you're here, what can you do about it?

dunno man, crank up the bass, put on some miami booty bass and plug a bass port.

dango · Post by **dango** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:09 am

leisuremuffin wrote:y'know what? I'd rather hang with b0unce than most of you people.

first of all, everybody who's all like "oh breqs, i don't agree with your reasons and politics, but good for you for following thru..." Fuck you fucking pussies. Do you or don't you believe what you believe? It's one thing to support the poor bastards who are fighting over there because they just wanted to pay for college, but a loud mouth racist fuck who really believes in this bullshit? fuck him, i hope he's pulling shrapnel out of his balls as soon as possible.

to all of the war supporters, just straight up, "fuck you." I don't even give a shit about debating it anymore. go put your money where your mouths are and join breqs, hopefully you'll get roadside bombed too.

word the fuck up, b0unce, fuck that guy and all of his supporters. he's a twat and i don't wish shit for him or anyone else of his ilk. I don't give a shit when that article is from. motherfuckers are still over there and in iraq where they don't belong. Talk to me about it being out dated when my fucking tax dollars aren't paying for it anymore.

.lm.

i agree, and like what was said, any other bitch who supports this war better put down there fuckin keypad, pack up live, and get the fuck over there. if you want to support an illegal war run by war criminals then get on board with their crew. army recruiting goals are way down so they need the help. watch out for IED's when you're there.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:14 am

dango wrote:
leisuremuffin wrote:y'know what? I'd rather hang with b0unce than most of you people.

first of all, everybody who's all like "oh breqs, i don't agree with your reasons and politics, but good for you for following thru..." Fuck you fucking pussies. Do you or don't you believe what you believe? It's one thing to support the poor bastards who are fighting over there because they just wanted to pay for college, but a loud mouth racist fuck who really believes in this bullshit? fuck him, i hope he's pulling shrapnel out of his balls as soon as possible.

to all of the war supporters, just straight up, "fuck you." I don't even give a shit about debating it anymore. go put your money where your mouths are and join breqs, hopefully you'll get roadside bombed too.

word the fuck up, b0unce, fuck that guy and all of his supporters. he's a twat and i don't wish shit for him or anyone else of his ilk. I don't give a shit when that article is from. motherfuckers are still over there and in iraq where they don't belong. Talk to me about it being out dated when my fucking tax dollars aren't paying for it anymore.

.lm.
i agree, and like what was said, any other bitch who supports this war better put down there fuckin keypad, pack up live, and get the fuck over there. if you want to support an illegal war run by war criminals then get on board with their crew. army recruiting goals are way down so they need the help. watch out for IED's when you're there.

you know he's in Afghanistan, not Iraq, right? the motivation and justification of the two are different.

oh, and bounce's posting of smilies and generally acting like an ass in breq's infamous thread was fucking brilliant, you can't argue with a child throwing a temper tantrum, mad props to bounce and his brilliant use of language, historical fact and debate tactics. great person to follow, a real role model, he's taught me so much on how to abuse forums.

leisuremuffin wrote:ps:

fuck.

.lm.

+1

I'm going through his infamous thread, save me some time and hang him with his own words. he's pissed people off more than I realised.

...

kufir - (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word literally meaning "ingrate". In the Islamic doctrinal sense the term refer to a person who does not recognize Allah or the finality of the prophethood of Muhammad and hides, denies, or covers the truth. In cultural terms, it is a derogatory term[1] used to describe an unbeliever, non-Muslims, apostate from Islam and even Muslims from different sects. It is usually translated into English as "infidel" or "unbeliever."

as an atheist I'd be the christian version of that, no? I reject their belief system and their god. am I being too simple here?

and he believes that fundamentalist islam is enough of a threat to the world that he's taking his soldiering career there. I'm soooooo not a military person but I guess that's how the careers of those guys works.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:38 am

You know, it's getting (maybe gotten) to the point with me where I have very little tolerance for "the other side" anymore. It bothers me to be that way because I try to be a tolerant person, but real people are dying and suffering and everytime I hear someone regurgitate more propoganda that may has well been written at some desk in the Pentagon, regardless of its level of "sophisitcation", whether it be a simple "bomb all those sand niggers, let god sort 'em out", "they want our freedom" or an eloquent regurgitation of an Alan Dershowitz speech, it all boils down to one thing:

Real people are dying and suffering over this shit every day.

It's not right.

And it infuriates me.

So that's why I feel the way I feel and that is why I have lost pretty much all tolerance for "the other side".

The stakes are higher than most people here in America realize. And call me paranoid, but everyday that I watch what is happening I become more certain that one day I am going to end up in a camp.

But whatever.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:46 am

cool, I can dig that.

would someone just push the fucking button already?
bringing children into this world should be labeled as child abuse.

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:53 am

It truly is horrible that the US introduced violence and death to the region. If we weren't there everybody would be holding hands, singing songs, and getting some good chuckles out of each other's differences of opinions.

I think we should leave and a peace and calm would fall over the region and it would become a model to all civilized nations. I'm fine with that. Let's give it a go!

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:04 am

smutek wrote:....regardless of its level of "sophisitcation"......

beats me wrote:It truly is horrible that the US introduced violence and death to the region. If we weren't there everybody would be holding hands, singing songs, and getting some good chuckles out of each other's differences of opinions.

I think we should leave and a peace and calm would fall over the region and it would become a model to all civilized nations. I'm fine with that. Let's give it a go!