Selling Ableton Live to a freind

[vikingjay]

Ok ... so here's my situation. I am considering selling my copy of Ableton Live 5.0 to a DJ friend who really really wants ableton at a decent price. I want to buy Logic Pro 7 because well, basically.. i have a sweet ass setup ... up-to-date fast as hell iMac g5, nice alesis active monitors, a good edirol firewire I/o .. and im using ableton to try and produce professional sounding music to no avail. I have studied up on eq and get fairly pro sounding masters ... but nothing even remotely comparable to what Logic puts out.

So heres my question ... is it possible to sell this to someone ? or am i prohibited from reselling it ? I assume to sell my copy of ableton I will have to involve the company in some manner, since the new owner will have to activate the software on his machine(s).

has anyone else ever done this or heard about it ? any feedback would be appreciated!

[leedsquietman]

Logic costs 500 dollars more than Live, so it has some better plugins in the box but you know, I use Cubase and a ton of quality 3rd party plugs and used to think like you.

Now I have had 9 months with Live and gotten used to it, I can't tell the difference. The sound quality is not caused by the DAW, it is plugins and familiarity with the given program which makes the difference, with occasionally stereo pan law featuring. Pro quality mixes are totally possible in Ableton Live if you get familiar with mixing and how to apply it correctly using the inbuilt or 3rd party tools. I barely run Cubase SX3 these days, Live has sounded it's death knell.

[Jackal and Hyde]

Logic costs 500 dollars more than Live, so it has some better plugins in the box but you know, I use Cubase and a ton of quality 3rd party plugs and used to think like you.

Now I have had 9 months with Live and gotten used to it, I can't tell the difference. The sound quality is not caused by the DAW, it is plugins and familiarity with the given program which makes the difference, with occasionally stereo pan law featuring. Pro quality mixes are totally possible in Ableton Live if you get familiar with mixing and how to apply it correctly using the inbuilt or 3rd party tools. I barely run Cubase SX3 these days, Live has sounded it's death knell.

+ 1

100% agree with you. I've used Ableton on 3 major label records in the last few months all completely mixed down in Live 6. Its all about the 3rd party plugs period. . .

[Poster]

it's an easy transfer..
see
http://www.ableton.com/pages/faq/license

but don't you want to keep it just for a sketchpad?
I mean, Live 5 can't be worth that much 2nd hand is it?

The seller and buyer must contact Ableton in order to transfer ownership:

The seller must contact Ableton and provide all serial numbers and registration information. This information will be deleted and become invalid; this is necessary in order to complete the transfer of ownership to the buyer.

The buyer must contact Ableton and provide all of his/her registration information in order to complete the transfer of ownership from the seller.

If the seller's latest version is an educational version, the buyer also needs to meet the requirements for purchasing an educational version. In other words, the buyer must provide Ableton with proof of his educational status (a copy of his student or lecturer ID together with a copy of his photo ID or an official confirmation from the school or university).

Please send the information required above to [email protected]

[robbmasters]

im using ableton to try and produce professional sounding music to no avail [..] but nothing even remotely comparable to what Logic puts out.

Logic might come with some nice plugins that help, but since other people are producing professional sounding music in Live, I don't think Live itself is your limitation - so I don't think that moving to Logic is going to make any difference to whether or not you get professional sounding results. Logic only "puts out" what you tell it. Just like Live.

[john gordon]

i love how people pipe in whenever someone mentions selling their copy of live.did they ask you for your 2 cents?stfu!!!!!

[robbmasters]

did they ask you for your 2 cents?stfu!!!!!

Anyone ask you for yours either? So you stfu first.

Then again, the nature of a discussion board is exactly that: discussion. It's not a simple a question and answer forum. Anything posted up on here is open to discussion. So by posting his reasons for switching to Logic (rather than simply asking whether Live could be resold) the original poster opened that subject up for discussion, and comments on that subject are justified - even if the original poster didn't specifically ask for opinions on that part of his post.

So back to the topic at hand, I've used Logic, Cubase and Live, and they all have their strengths and weaknesses - so there are many reasons for using one or another. However, I don't think an anticipation that you'll get better sound quality is a good reason for switching from any DAW to any other, and it's likely to lead to disappointment.

However, if the original poster wants to switch to Logic to get better MIDI or score editing (for example) then I won't try to convince him otherwise.

It has nothing to to with anyone selling their copy of Live. I couldn't really care less whether or not someone keeps or sells their copy. But if I can help them avoid doing something they might regret, then I'll try to do so. I thought that helping out other Live owners was what this community was about. Unfortunately, some people seem to think very differently...

[Stace]

My word robbmasters!! I don't think that anybody could have explained that any better!! Good comment mate!

[zsazsa]

but back on track,

you can sell your copy mail ableton + change the data in your user account to your friends id.

Hope you make cool music no matter what tools you are using