Linux + Live?

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:53 pm

thelocalhost · Post by **thelocalhost** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:02 pm

BinaryB wrote: Slowly but surely the balance of power is shifting

No. It's not. Or if it is, the shift isn't large enough for anyone to give a shit.

Despite the numerous posts on slashdot, linux isn't a practical solution for the majority of 'regular' users.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:47 pm

thelocalhost wrote:
BinaryB wrote: Slowly but surely the balance of power is shifting
No. It's not. Or if it is, the shift isn't large enough for anyone to give a shit.

Despite the numerous posts on slashdot, linux isn't a practical solution for the majority of 'regular' users.

Why not?

rhythminmind · Post by **rhythminmind** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:28 pm

PurpleHaze wrote:so what DAW can work on Linux properly?

Linux is not only ready for multimedia itś here. and has been in Pro Post production for years.

But for end users check this out,.

http://www.energy-xt.com/ - Great DAW Midi&Audio - Simular to Live & tracktion

http://ardour.org/ - Great audio editor / mixer - Protools & Samplitude

http://www.hydrogen-music.org/ - great drum machine

http://ubuntustudio.org/ - Multimedia Linux OS Disto. Comes with just about everything Preinstalled & setup.

http://wired.epitech.net/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=29
- Reason type of thing

rhythminmind · Post by **rhythminmind** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:30 pm

thelocalhost wrote:
No. It's not. Or if it is, the shift isn't large enough for anyone to give a shit.

Despite the numerous posts on slashdot, linux isn't a practical solution for the majority of 'regular' users.

Have you used Ubuntu?
If my Mother & Girl Friend both can... Itś more then a practical solution.

bigbadotis · Post by **bigbadotis** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:02 am

Have you used Ubuntu?
If my Mother & Girl Friend both can... Itś more then a practical solution.

I'd love to have a girlfriend who was geeky enough to figure out how to install wireless drivers for a macbook pro in Ubuntu. It is -not- simple. I'm sure the next version will take care of it though...

rhythminmind · Post by **rhythminmind** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:05 am

bigbadotis wrote:
Have you used Ubuntu?
If my Mother & Girl Friend both can... Itś more then a practical solution.
I'd love to have a girlfriend who was geeky enough to figure out how to install wireless drivers for a macbook pro in Ubuntu. It is -not- simple. I'm sure the next version will take care of it though...

Install NDisWrapper, then use your windows driver Apple gives you for bootcamp.

On a side note. Can your Girlfriend install wireless drivers for Windows with the MacBook Pro?

thelocalhost · Post by **thelocalhost** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:32 am

rhythminmind wrote:
thelocalhost wrote:
No. It's not. Or if it is, the shift isn't large enough for anyone to give a shit.

Despite the numerous posts on slashdot, linux isn't a practical solution for the majority of 'regular' users.
Have you used Ubuntu?.

Yes. I have and I am currently running yellow dog on my PS3.

I still stand by my statements. I would never recommend, or tell any that wasn't familiar with linux, to start using it. It's not worth it. There's no linux applications that justify a change. If anything, get an Mac.

PurpleHaze · Post by **PurpleHaze** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:04 am

rhythminmind wrote:
PurpleHaze wrote:so what DAW can work on Linux properly?
Linux is not only ready for multimedia itś here. and has been in Pro Post production for years.

But for end users check this out,.

http://www.energy-xt.com/ - Great DAW Midi&Audio - Simular to Live & tracktion

http://ardour.org/ - Great audio editor / mixer - Protools & Samplitude

http://www.hydrogen-music.org/ - great drum machine

http://ubuntustudio.org/ - Multimedia Linux OS Disto. Comes with just about everything Preinstalled & setup.

http://wired.epitech.net/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=29
- Reason type of thing

ardour, is good but i need something like cubase and protools to work on this.

PurpleHaze · Post by **PurpleHaze** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:51 am

i will consider ardour only if it can save as OEM or OES or what ever is the file name. Its a file you can save as using different DAWS and open it in any sequencer, who knows what i am talkiing bout. I wa reading this a while back dont know if it really exist.

bigbadotis · Post by **bigbadotis** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:50 am

Install NDisWrapper, then use your windows driver Apple gives you for bootcamp.

On a side note. Can your Girlfriend install wireless drivers for Windows with the MacBook Pro?

Oh, I got them to work, I just want a girlfriend that could do it too. I have no girlfriend currently. My theoretical linux installing girlfriend could also install the Windows wireless drivers using only her pinkies.

Your one sentence summary of the process is nice, but c'mon, we're talking about adding a module to the kernel using the terminal if I remember the process correctly. Just opening the terminal is more than many users are going to want to do.

But not my theoretical girlfriend... no indeedy.

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:16 pm

thelocalhost wrote:
rhythminmind wrote:There's no linux applications that justify a change.

what the...
http://distrowatch.com/
http://linux-sound.org/
http://freshmeat.net/browse/18/
http://www.ubustu.com/

really, if you can use a bloody search machine (ie google) you can get more then enough programs to justify a change.

as for supporting/porting a linux version, how exactly hard would it be?
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X

it is unix based, so it shouldnt be all that hard no?

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:28 pm

friend_kami wrote:it is unix based, so it shouldnt be all that hard no?

Well.

I'm not sure Ableton are actually *using* any of the UNIX subsystems of OS X. I can't see why they would be. They're much more likely to be using the proprietary Apple stuff like Carbon stuff for the non-cross platform things like file IO, 'give me a window'-code, etc., etc., and they're obviously using CoreAudio for audio. Linux has none of those. That being said, Live is obviously quite cross platform, although the very basic things would have to be rewritten, it's a safe bet that most of the application is safely encapsulated in something portable..

thelocalhost · Post by **thelocalhost** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:41 pm

friend_kami wrote:
thelocalhost wrote:
rhythminmind wrote:There's no linux applications that justify a change.

what the...
http://distrowatch.com/
http://linux-sound.org/
http://freshmeat.net/browse/18/
http://www.ubustu.com/

really, if you can use a bloody search machine (ie google) you can get more then enough programs to justify a change

Where is the Live-esque clone, where's my Audio Units plugins, Does rewire work, etc...

Does this make my point clear?

Wake Up. Linux isn't a variable solution for many users. And if you want to use unix, get a mac.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:08 am

thelocalhost wrote:if you want to use unix, get a mac.

Bwaha.

I suppose they're certified now, though...