Korg Zero 4/8

D K · Post by **D K** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:25 am

specs...puhleeeeaaaaazzze?

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:07 am

http://www.korg.com/gear/prod_info.asp? ... egory_id=2

D K · Post by **D K** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:46 am

that link still doesn't give the specs we desire...
real, operating latency with live....

Alexis8875 · Post by **Alexis8875** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:57 pm

hello folks...got some specs right here...
Buffer Size: 77 Samples ( goes as low as 61 till i hear cracks)
Imput Latency: 4.78 ms
Output Latency: 4.78 ms

anythinng you guys want me to share...please let me know...i am willing to share this beast with you guys as far as testing is concerned...
picked it up yesterday, and been working on it for 5-6 hours total...absolutely fantastic...nothing but great things to say about it right now...i have not ventured into the EFX pad at all...
i will keep u posted with me, feel free to ask me anthing else! much love, always, A8

ground_control · Post by **ground_control** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:10 pm

The specs of your computer would probably be useful as well; thanks for sharing.

Everybody begging for specs needs to relax. They're playing with their new toy, let them have some fun.

J

SPAWNmaster · Post by **SPAWNmaster** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:18 pm

Alexis i've got some questions for your in the Zero4/8 thread over at ALDJ! check it out

Alexis8875 · Post by **Alexis8875** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:31 pm

yes andrew i got that...i will get to it later tonight mat8....no worries for sure...
i have been playing with this thing all day, mapping, triggering, and testing and its running real smooth folks....still have not touched the efx pad...but i will soon. any other questiions please let me know, thanks, much love to all, A8

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oh...specs of my machine...macbook pro 2.33Ghz, 2 GB, live 6.0, korg ZERO 8

D K · Post by **D K** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:38 am

Alexis8875 wrote:hello folks...got some specs right here...
Buffer Size: 77 Samples ( goes as low as 61 till i hear cracks)
Imput Latency: 4.78 ms
Output Latency: 4.78 ms

excellent, thanks for sharing.
anthomymacc is moving to nyc, his shit is packed up so he'll report back later...
at 77 samples, almost 10ms total means that for throughput(such as instruments)
this ain't gonna cut it...bummer. my ultralite beats that.
mac too. damn.

jeskola · Post by **jeskola** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:00 am

i want , i want... but quite expensive... BUt im after a new controller and sound card... should i .... shouldnt i...

anthonymacc · Post by **anthonymacc** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:54 pm

Hey Everyone -

Sorry I have been gone for so long, I finally got unpacked after this weekend and I just started messing with my zero8 again for the first time in 2 weeks !

Anyways, with the buffer at 77 Samples, to match the previous posters results :

Input Latency : 4.78ms
Output Latency : 4.78ms

Overall latency : 9.57ms

Hope that helps, and sorry for the delay.

I do have a question though - I understand that if I drop the buffer sample to 77 the latency decreases. I have been running Ableton at 512, what differences will there be if I run it at 77, other than Latency?

77 is about as low as I can go before I get a crackle.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I am running this on the new iMac 20", 2.0 core 2 duo with 2 GB of factory RAM. The latency was based off the firewire port, not the midi out. I will report back later with MIDI latency.

audiovoid · Post by **audiovoid** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:50 pm

1st off, for the past 3 weeks I've been using the Zero4 with my Macbook Pro and Ableton Live when I play out and it's absolutely tits. Tons of fun. I use all 4 channels in Audio/midi mode, mixing the seperate tracks from Ableton as if I was using a traditional dj mixer or mixing desk and assign the free (green) midi controls to various Ableton fx, parameters, etc.
It's definately a joy to use and gives me the absolute hands on control that has been impossible with my previous midi controllers because of inevitable latency.
So...
I DO have a few gripes about the thing though and I'm actually quite suprised nobody else has mentioned yet.

1st problem is with the Isolator and Filter eq Settings.
With any eq knob (bass,mid,treb) set at 0 (middle) it is fine. But Turn it the tiniest bit either way and the result is WAY too drastic.
Basically with any knob turned down to about half way the frequency is gone. It's like, a quarter of the way down should actually be the volume of the thing when its half way down (or more). It seams all off kilter or somthing.

2nd Thing (and it's small) and audible soundgap/dropout when changing the Input selector knob from Audio to Audio/midi. It's just annoying if you are using and switching back and forth between both modes to take advantage of the CHannelFX AND some midi controlls.

3rd thing (and I'm very curious about this) VERY Low master Output level.
This is the deal. I've taken this thing out for 3 gigs so far and at two of them I had major Master Volume issues when running the rca-record out (Unbalanced I know, but is supposed to be identical to the master output) into the house mixer. All 3 times the house mixer has been a dj mixer of some sort, not a mixing desk.
I know for a fact that the ideal situation is to run Balanced xlr outs into a mixing desk but in most dj'ing (ecspecially club) situations this is just not an option.
And It would be pointless to get Xlr to quarter inch cables with Rca adapters on them because that would just turn the signal back into unbalanced anyways.

So I've been running my RCA outs into a free Line/CD channel on the venue's House DJ mixer and (like I said) 2 out of the 3 times, Had to crank my korgs Master Volume Up All The Way, AND the Dj Mixer's Channel Gain All the way just to get my level close to the taht of the dj that was playing cd's before me.
Suprisingly the gigs ended up sounding good with minimal digital distortion like I thought would be there, but the thing that just blows my mind is that my Macbook Pro's Built in 1/8th inch output spits out a Hotter signal than my Korg with the Master volume all of the way up.

I'm actually considering buying a hardware compressor/limiter that I can insert between the korg's master out and any venues main mixer just so I can get some extra gain if needed.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:35 pm

audiovoid wrote:I know for a fact that the ideal situation is to run Balanced xlr outs into a mixing desk but in most dj'ing (ecspecially club) situations this is just not an option.
And It would be pointless to get Xlr to quarter inch cables with Rca adapters on them because that would just turn the signal back into unbalanced anyways.

but the signal might be way hotter though... it's worth a try.