Want to replicate a specific Electro Bassline, help needed!

cyco · Post by **cyco** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:33 pm

Hello all,

I'm quite new to ableton, but fighting my way up the learning curve, finally starting to make progress! Got into this whole thing after I started going to Fabric in london on Saturdays - electro house night.

I recently heard a song that had this short bassline loop that I loved and knew was used, with different notes, in a lot of the stuff played at fabric on saturdays.

The song is Konrad Black's remix of 'Honeymoon's Over' by Snax, its track 4 on the Ewan Pearson Fabric 35 CD or you can search and hear it on Beatport.

Its a hard to describe the bit I'm talking about but here goes: Its the 1 bar String like bassline that sort of goes 'D-DIN....don...don...don'

I can figure out the notes fine, but I'd like to replicate the effect in operator, Anyone got any ideas? I'm hoping that its quite a well known and much used effect that someone would recognise and could just send me the preset or something (i'm using Ableton 5.2 currently).

To put this effect together from scratch I realise might be quite a lot of work, I understand if its too much effort, but any help would be much appreciated!

Chris

cyco · Post by **cyco** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:56 pm

Made a quick mp3 of 10 seconds of the track:

http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=fc678ad

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:37 pm

Top complicated to download couldnt even work out how to do it.

cyco · Post by **cyco** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:25 pm

yeah, apologies, its a bit of a bitch.

You scroll down a little, enter the code, hit 'reactivate passport' (strange use of words), scroll down a little more and click 'click here to download'

Still hoping you'll recognise this as 'definitively electro' and will know how to do it!

Chris

ytsek · Post by **ytsek** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:01 pm

This is minimal. Not electro.

cyco · Post by **cyco** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:32 pm

ok, i'll try mnml.nl. thanks.

stevehowlett · Post by **stevehowlett** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:28 am

this can be described as electro (minimal electro

anyway that bassline is easy to do...

you need a digital bass sound with cutoff about 75% - resonance at say 25%

on adsr the release is what gives it the "bounce" - u need to experiment with the % setting on the release time - try 10-30%

then you need a 1 bar midi loop to trigger the sound...

The bar would have 5 notes - the first 3 equally spaced on the 1s and 2s then the next 2 on the off beats with double time showing....

there you have it

I do Electro-House too and i been to Fabric - some of it is awesome...

I also play out in bars and clubs in London - if u wanna hear some of my stuff go to

www.myspace.com/stevehowlettinlondon

cyco · Post by **cyco** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:49 am

ok, this all sounds good, thank you. My problem with your advice lies in what digital bass sound to start with? The only bass synth I have with the cut-off and resonance settings is the Audiorealism Bassline (303) plug-in, but I doubt I can get the same bouncy plucked sound with it? Or should I use ableton's operator with a specific bass preset?

I am GLAD you recognise the sound i'm talking about and would like to persue this futher!

And yeah, fabric on saturdays is just the best night in the country I reckon....

Like you music, Do you make it ALL in ableton? or use pro tools/reason?

stevehowlett · Post by **stevehowlett** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:43 am

i do not know audio realism's plug...

you can probably get the sound u want thru operator

especially if u do the tutorial on operator in ableton

i only use ableton but i have used reason but not pro tools

the session view is so unique andd useful that was the main reason why i used it

but it is very stable and hasa great workflow and is intuitive

ableton is so much better than other DAWs i have used it is a joke (i do like reason though)

Atomikat · Post by **Atomikat** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:53 am

And use some delay...

Doctor G · Post by **Doctor G** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:22 pm

Chris - Hi

Been to Fabric...very cool. I'm from England but live in Boston, USA now. I'm pretty sure I can help to recreate the sound. I use a Waldorf MicroQ VA synth but software or hardware is pretty much the same. Sounds like a pulse or saw osc, maybe two together with LP filter and yes quick attack and bouncy release. But there is also a delay effect. I can def hear it bouncing off from the middle of the mix to the far left and right which def gives it a fuller feel than just a dry bass. I'll try and recreate it exactly when I get some time and tell you exactly how I did it. I've done so much anaysis and recreating of sounds over the last few years and I really enjoy figuring this stuff out. Electro is HUGE in the states right now. I hardly hear any vocal house or anything other than hard electro/minimal/tribal. Cheers mate!

Gideon

http://www.myspace.com/7748993

My latest track is on my myspace if interested - tks

cyco · Post by **cyco** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:17 pm

Gideon,

thank you for this reply... I'm glad you've been to fabric... I recommend saturday night to anyone. I also have just discovered the German label called 'kompakt'. They do it really well over there. Look on the kompakt website and listen, if you haven't already, to Robert Babicz, Michael mayer or tobias becker - they are geniuses with this new Minimal techno/electro stuff. I honestly believe they are some of the best in the world. A few friends and I did a weekend trip to Cologne where kompakt are based for there summer festival - it was incredible...

I'm opening live up now and will experiment with the settings you suggested, operator should suffice non? If you do have any luck on your end send me over anything you can! This sound is something I am very very keen to pursue.