SP1200 or MPC 2000XL

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Post by Heinz Graaf » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:41 am

i wouldnt get an sp1200 though. That machine is way overpriced.

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Post by v00d00ppl » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:47 am

if u want that 12 bit grunge and nasty filter sound...sp 1200!!!! 10 seconds might not seem like a lot of time, butr if you chop single drum hits...thats equivalent to at least 8 sounds of percussion. so you can sample the break at 8 different points and really rock hard by using live as a sequencer.

also the studio 440 is another promising sampler, but its even harder to find but it has amazing filters too. a good producer who uses the studio 440 wopuld be dan the automator (gorillaz and hand some boy) and also apollo 440. Dj Jazzy Jess also uses it.

as for purchasing the mpc 2000xl...............u can do whatever the mpc can on live and then some.

both the studio and sp have no waveform display, but you can chop with your ears.

don't tyhink i am hating on the mpc....my first piece of gear was the 1000. if the pads didn't break i wouldn't have been so quick to sell it either.

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Post by Heinz Graaf » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:01 am

on the sp you will of course sample everything picthed up so you save sample time. thats a no brainer

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Post by Heinz Graaf » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:35 am

"my first piece of gear was the 1000. if the pads didn't break i wouldn't have been so quick to sell it either. "
the mpc1000 has bad pads. theyre completely different compared to other mpcs

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Post by Igor L » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:05 pm

If I had a choice between the two I'd definitely get the SP. You can get pretty close to the MPC with Live or with other sofware (Battery, Guru, etc.), but the SP has a very unique sound that is very difficult to authentically duplicate.

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Post by blakbeltjonez » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:18 pm

get the MPC and an old Emax to cover the SP1200 grunge. but the SP1200's sequencer has a kind of funk to it that's in it's own league, kind of like the way a TR-808 has it's own feel(wobbling up or down a BPM or two, or trying to, when it's DIN synced to something else)

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Post by Jazzy J » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:22 pm

Cheers peeps. Think i'm gonna get an sp. I do all my other stuff through live anyway, the sp is just gonna be for my beats and some sampling.

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Post by b0unce » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:30 pm

blakbeltjonez wrote:get the MPC and an old Emax to cover the SP1200 grunge. but the SP1200's sequencer has a kind of funk to it that's in it's own league, kind of like the way a TR-808 has it's own feel(wobbling up or down a BPM or two, or trying to, when it's DIN synced to something else)
check this page out on timing differences between classic drum machines
unfortunately there's no sp1200 tested
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Post by v00d00ppl » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:46 am

Heinz Graaf wrote:"my first piece of gear was the 1000. if the pads didn't break i wouldn't have been so quick to sell it either. "
the mpc1000 has bad pads. theyre completely different compared to other mpcs
compared to other mpc's the 1000 and 2500 are a lot easier to operate than their counterparts. However, the durability of the pads is what makes that machine look bad. The stock os 2.01 is easy to work with and the small size of it makes it so much easier.
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Post by Rogue Scrunt » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:28 pm

b0unce wrote:
blakbeltjonez wrote:get the MPC and an old Emax to cover the SP1200 grunge. but the SP1200's sequencer has a kind of funk to it that's in it's own league, kind of like the way a TR-808 has it's own feel(wobbling up or down a BPM or two, or trying to, when it's DIN synced to something else)
check this page out on timing differences between classic drum machines
unfortunately there's no sp1200 tested
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