Motu Ultralite Users Please Skip Ahead to Last post of Mine!

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:11 am

I've been over and over and over that manual that basicly says absolutely nothing.
I've got a handheld mic pluged into channel 1 and another plugged into channel 2, i've got the trim on both 1 and 2 turned all the way down, i've also got analog 1 and 2 all the way down (off), for some reason if i speak into the mics there is still a clear signal going through the ultralite into live coming in on channels 1 0r 2 which ever mic i speak through.

isn't there a way to turn down the inputs to nothing, i've also opened the motu cuemix console and every single fader and trim is turned down all the way. i'm only using mix 1.

nowtime · Post by **nowtime** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:39 am

What about the MUTE function for the input on Mix1? My 828 has that. Or what about disabling the input in Live's prefs?

D K · Post by **D K** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:53 am

sounds like you have the zero-latency throughput enabled...
if you go into the mixer on the motu, you can turn these volumes off..
sorry to not be exact about the process, my motu is not in front of me.
i'm fairly sure this is the problem, though.

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:32 pm

wow thanks for the tips i'll try these things out i thought i was going crazy, it seems like the analog 1-8s digital faders don't do anything on my ultralite when i turn them up and down.

sgingras · Post by **sgingras** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:36 pm

I had the same problem. It's because the Motu will function as a stand-alone mixer as well as a soundcard. Open up the software on your computer (looks like a mixer) and you can fix it from there. I forget exactly what i had to to, but I think it was pretty straightforward once I opened the software.

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:37 pm

i'm not infront of my system right now, but i went all through the cue mix software and could not get it to work right.

rbmonosylabik · Post by **rbmonosylabik** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:24 am

Do the mics still sound when Live is not running?

Do you have any track in live set with input 1/2 and monitoring to IN?

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:34 am

i am monitoring through Live on channels 1 and 2, the trim knob on the ultralite effects the level of imput into Live, but I can have the trim knobs on 1 and 2 all the way down and live is still receiving the signal, and I turn the ultralites virtual faders all the way down and live is still receiving a signal

i'm not in front of everything right now so i haven't had a chance to try any suggestions yet but i will.

rbmonosylabik · Post by **rbmonosylabik** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:48 am

If monitoring is set to IN in Live, signal will pass through to the output. Then, if you raise the Cue Mix faders you should get the signal with a delay, because you'll be hearing both the direct output through the Cue Mix and the latency affected signal coming off Live.

What I find odd is what you say about the trims. Try modifying the trim from the hardware and see if Cue Mix follows. Check if your trims actually modify the input signal level. Also check the position of your Phantom Power and Attenuation switches.

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:13 am

ok, i'm right in front of the system right now

i'm looking at the cue mix console and all faders of all mix busses are all down all the way including the master cuemix faders.
even when i use cue mix i only use mix 1, but any way everything is completely down and my mic is pluged into channel 1 and i'm still getting a mic signal in live.
i've got an audio track up set to external input channel 1 and the signal comes through every time i say some thing in the micl

there should be no signal at all right?

rbmonosylabik · Post by **rbmonosylabik** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:28 am

do you get a very low signal in live, or is it really high and clear?

what kind of mic are you using?

As far as I know, you can still get signal from any sound source plugged into a pre even when the Trim is set to 0. That's why you can connect something with line level signal to the pres, leave the trim at 0 and still have it sound through.

Try changing the track's input monitoring mode to OFF and see if it stops outputting what comes through the mic

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:38 am

i'm using a little akai dictation handheld mic, the signal is way to strong for having no faders or knobs turned up, i'm pluggin it into the channel 1 mic/instr. input, it's a 1/4 inch cable into the motu

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:12 am

well so far i've tried everything folks, don't know if i done your suggestions correctly but i think so, still have the same problem.

let me ask you all this, if you have all the knobs and faders down on your ultralite are you still able to get a signal in live?

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:35 am

this is driving me nuts, I can't seem to find out where Live is getting it's signal from, obviously its coming from the ultralite but everything is turned completely down,

here's a thought I've got the 32 bit drivers installed for the ultralite, should i have installed the 64 bit drivers, i wouldn't think so as live isn't a 64 bit app right, and neither is xp home edition so i dunno what it could be

rbmonosylabik · Post by **rbmonosylabik** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:10 am

Isn't there somewhere else you could be getting your signal from? bulit in mic perhaps?

Sounds like a really odd problem. You should get signal off a dynamic microphone even with the Trim down to 0, but it would involve some really loud sound source to get a decent level.