Automation on Scene Change???

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kestwest
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Automation on Scene Change???

Post by kestwest » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:00 pm

Greets from Minneapolis,

I'm trying to figure out a way to automatically change track volume, send levels, panning, etc. when switching to a particular scene in the session view (Live 6). I use the scene name to change tempo (i.e. 114 BPM), but volume, sends and panning are all static until I manually adjust them. Is there such a feature available or planned for a future release? If not, seems like there must be some kind of hack to make it happen.

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Post by longjohns » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:04 pm

check out "dummy clips"

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can dummy clips help?

Post by kestwest » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:51 pm

I use dummy clips for follow actions, and I can use clip envelopes to adjust panning and volume, but there are two problems with this approach. 1) volume/panning changes back when I switch to a new scene with a different clip in the track. 2) As far as I can tell, the send envelopes only scale, so if you have it down to naught it has no place to go.

What I would like is for the the whole mix to change on a particular scene, then stay that way for all the scenes in the group. That way I don't have to program the envelope on every clip (i have hundreds in my set). I imagine if I was using a MIDI controller that could send stored parameters I could do something like this.

Another problem with using clip envelopes is that they don't allow you to turn on/off the device activators which is all I want to do as far as processing goes in certain places. For example, an EQ you only want on for a certain group of scenes will have to be enabled manually unless you leave it on for everything and then set every parameter in the clip envelope to "enable" it (a lot more work than just switching it on).

Maybe I am overlooking something. I just upgraded to 6 from 5, so perhaps there is something new that allows this, or I have just not discovered an efficient workaround yet. If anyone has any other ideas, please let me know.

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Post by octatone » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:46 pm

Create a dummy clip track and ...

REMOVE ALL THE STOP BUTTONS

then when you change scenes after activating a dummy clip, the dummy clip will always play (will always be sending that automation you want) until you activate another dummy clip .. no matter what scene you are currently on. Because without a stop button your clip should loop ... unless you turned off looping for some reason.

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Post by longjohns » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:03 am

also, I don't have the mental energy right now to entirely think through your last post, but since device on/off switches are MIDI mappable, it would seem that you could toggle them via dummy clips and IAC/ MIDIyoke

(?)

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