sooner or later one of you goons should call my boss to give me more work to do.
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Hello 'funky shit'...
it sounds like you're very much jumping into the deep end! Brave certainly, depending on your ears, it may be foolish!
Change your software, ableton and pro tools LE both have poor output algorithms (pro tools can sound like a poor tape machine).
- Sony Soundforge sounds good, though there are more decent apps for matering out there.
- Forget headphones. They might be usdful for reference on, but nothing more.
- monitors, obviously, I dunno what your dynaudios are like, I know they make some monitors designed for mastering.
- work in a acoustically tight room, and proof it!
- don't be another asshole who charges people to master with waves. For 30 bob a track, I'd expect everything to be done by hardware. Every mastering engineer worth their salt has a manley limiter at the end of the chain. If cash really ain't an issue, buy one. And at least one compressor, SSL's are good, asd are avalon vacuum compressors. A lot of top engineers also use on of the TC electronic room simulators - a piece of hardware with a seperate screen.
- get really fucking good - a training montage to take through a couple of years will help.
it sounds like you're very much jumping into the deep end! Brave certainly, depending on your ears, it may be foolish!
Change your software, ableton and pro tools LE both have poor output algorithms (pro tools can sound like a poor tape machine).
- Sony Soundforge sounds good, though there are more decent apps for matering out there.
- Forget headphones. They might be usdful for reference on, but nothing more.
- monitors, obviously, I dunno what your dynaudios are like, I know they make some monitors designed for mastering.
- work in a acoustically tight room, and proof it!
- don't be another asshole who charges people to master with waves. For 30 bob a track, I'd expect everything to be done by hardware. Every mastering engineer worth their salt has a manley limiter at the end of the chain. If cash really ain't an issue, buy one. And at least one compressor, SSL's are good, asd are avalon vacuum compressors. A lot of top engineers also use on of the TC electronic room simulators - a piece of hardware with a seperate screen.
- get really fucking good - a training montage to take through a couple of years will help.
lmfao!! just when this thread couldn't get any better!!
+1 Live sounds HORRIBLE.
register - do you also get that slight warbling sound and lack of clarity around 3500Hz?
you can't score a film without tempo changes either, give it up!!
btw I'm sure shit will be fine, he's got some knowledgeable people on the line and has the motivation.
+1 Live sounds HORRIBLE.
register - do you also get that slight warbling sound and lack of clarity around 3500Hz?
you can't score a film without tempo changes either, give it up!!
btw I'm sure shit will be fine, he's got some knowledgeable people on the line and has the motivation.
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz
did you ever notice how EVERYTHING you import sounds weird?
yeah, don't even get me started about the audio ins, the sample rate conversion isn't steady, like it loses 1s but not 0s and the 32 bit engine doesn't float all the time, it's different every time I start up the app.
I find that especially the MIDI sounds fucked up, there's no highs.
also the dynamic range is clearly inferior to all the other major DAWs.
yeah, don't even get me started about the audio ins, the sample rate conversion isn't steady, like it loses 1s but not 0s and the 32 bit engine doesn't float all the time, it's different every time I start up the app.
I find that especially the MIDI sounds fucked up, there's no highs.
also the dynamic range is clearly inferior to all the other major DAWs.
In my life
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz
Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
-Moz
Finally someone else admits it!
I can't get Live to render the same thing twice, it's different each time! The output interpolation extrapolation algorithms are not calibrated at all, easily losing 3 dB stereo seperation in a bandpass manner. They must be attenuating the crosstalk in order to achieve higher ASIO throughput live, it's definitely not the app you want to use for good sounding music.
And ProTools man, now there's a cluster fuc of poorly optimized exponential automation! Talk about jacket and zipper noise on the sends!
Jeebus, we need to let more people know about this I think. Do you think Manley makes a dithering plug in that would help Tone Deft?
I can't get Live to render the same thing twice, it's different each time! The output interpolation extrapolation algorithms are not calibrated at all, easily losing 3 dB stereo seperation in a bandpass manner. They must be attenuating the crosstalk in order to achieve higher ASIO throughput live, it's definitely not the app you want to use for good sounding music.
And ProTools man, now there's a cluster fuc of poorly optimized exponential automation! Talk about jacket and zipper noise on the sends!
Jeebus, we need to let more people know about this I think. Do you think Manley makes a dithering plug in that would help Tone Deft?
tarekith
https://tarekith.com
https://tarekith.com
Yes. It's called MANDITHER and is rapidly taking over the audio universe!Tarekith wrote: Jeebus, we need to let more people know about this I think. Do you think Manley makes a dithering plug in that would help Tone Deft?
Get yr Mandither now from http://www.mandither.com
It also mixes, masters and moondances thanks to its unique Gizmotron capabilities...which also make Live sound like Logic. It's all 1s and 0s.
They must be selling a lot of them, they took their online store down it looks like 
Anyone know anything similar to the Mandither?
Anyone know anything similar to the Mandither?
tarekith
https://tarekith.com
https://tarekith.com
Re: MASTERING!!
is this a jokefunky shit wrote:Greetings dudes/dudettes!!
whats the craic (an irish thing)
Just want to start by sayin i love you all, helped with alot of problems in the past
anyway...
Im gona set up a website, a relly decent one like. And It can b a place where people can find out details if they want a score or theme etc!!
but alsoo.....
Im gona master tracks for about £30, but the thing is, I wana learn some top quality shit. I can use ableton 6, acid pro 6 and protools LE. I also have the Waves Diamonds bundle
so any links or tutorials to help me find the waythe cash would be excellent and a nice start to my career!!
cheers
I did not follow the whole post, so please clarify: is this your experience or just an ironical statement (meant to say: Live does good)?Tarekith wrote:Finally someone else admits it!
I can't get Live to render the same thing twice, it's different each time! The output interpolation extrapolation algorithms are not calibrated at all, easily losing 3 dB stereo seperation in a bandpass manner. They must be attenuating the crosstalk in order to achieve higher ASIO throughput live, it's definitely not the app you want to use for good sounding music.
And ProTools man, now there's a cluster fuc of poorly optimized exponential automation! Talk about jacket and zipper noise on the sends!
Jeebus, we need to let more people know about this I think. Do you think Manley makes a dithering plug in that would help Tone Deft?
You did prove in another thread that Live's output without warping is the same as Cubase's which most people seem to regard as good.