Multiple MIDI Controls, one Parameter

williamm · Post by **williamm** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:44 am

Hi,

Sorry if this has been awnsered recently (looked around the forums a bit and RTFM). I'm trying to map multiple MIDI controllers to one Parameter, but whenever I try to assign one to the Parameter the previous Midi CC gets erased. Is there any way I can have 2+ controlling one parameter?

966sf · Post by **966sf** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:01 am

I haven't really found a way to this on purpose. but when i use a MIDI Controller through USB that has native support like the Novation ReMOTE SL and then another controller not natively supported but mapped like the Faderfox LC2. I can control the same parameter such as the mute groups. I suppose if you have the controllers both sending the same CC on the same channel then you can have multiple controllers manipulating that one parameter. But it's weird because i think when i checked out what the Novation was sending (which won't show up in the MIDI mapping browser). I think it was sending different messages.

williamm · Post by **williamm** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:16 am

hi 966,

that makes sense, thanks for the input/idea.

would still like to know if its possible to set different CC to one parameter. would be nice to be able to consolidate everything to say a bitstream 3x, and be able to tweak a constant VST while switching through different channels to bring other pieces in

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:19 pm

what i would like is to be able to map two CC´s to the same knob/button, for finetuning.

ie, you have a 0 to 127 macro knob mapped to cc8 (currently a filter knob for an instrument), which then ofcourse goes from complteley boring to extra filtered (obviously), but then i want to be able to fine tune that current setting with cc7, so that it goes +-5% of the current value (for example).

anyone know is this is possible in any way, or do i need thirdparty software for this (like max/msp or pd?

been bugging me for quite some time now.
not trying to steal your thread here, just continuing on the topic i guess.

going to try the multiple controller option, but im pretty sure it wont work, check back in just a few.

williamm · Post by **williamm** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:22 am

its cool kami. this is actually one thing i would be interested in, two CCs to the same knob/button. this would allow me to control one VST from multiple different "pages" of CC on a bitstream.

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:59 am

yeah, id like that too, mainly for scaling.

also id like the ability to select whether a button (in racks then, beat repeat modes for example), should cycle thorugh all the modes of just mode a to b.

so far i have to group it, macro the thing i want, then map the macroed knob to the knob i wanna use for it, and scale it down from 0-127 to say.. 0-75 to avoid gate mode at all.

not sure if it can be scaled with midi mapping, because i havent tried, been making some mashup racks. so i just want the knobs on the master rack, hook them up to my controller and play.

then i have to take that road, anyone know a simpler way of doing that? i dont want the gate mode dammit :p

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:23 am

my best idea would be to use another app to translate the MIDI cc's

so you could map cc1 in ableton, but translate cc2 through cc10 all to cc1, for example.

I think that is possible (?)

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:02 am

longjohns wrote:my best idea would be to use another app to translate the MIDI cc's

so you could map cc1 in ableton, but translate cc2 through cc10 all to cc1, for example.

I think that is possible (?)

you know, i feel quite stupid realising that would most likely work, and that i havent even considered that option.
hah me.

then again, who wants a workaround?
i say they include this is Live 7 as a feature instead.
thank you.

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:06 am

friend_kami wrote: yeah, id like that too, mainly for scaling.

also id like the ability to select whether a button (in racks then, beat repeat modes for example), should cycle thorugh all the modes of just mode a to b.

so far i have to group it, macro the thing i want, then map the macroed knob to the knob i wanna use for it, and scale it down from 0-127 to say.. 0-75 to avoid gate mode at all.

not sure if it can be scaled with midi mapping, because i havent tried, been making some mashup racks. so i just want the knobs on the master rack, hook them up to my controller and play.

then i have to take that road, anyone know a simpler way of doing that? i dont want the gate mode dammit :p

friend_kami wrote:
longjohns wrote:my best idea would be to use another app to translate the MIDI cc's

so you could map cc1 in ableton, but translate cc2 through cc10 all to cc1, for example.

I think that is possible (?)
you know, i feel quite stupid realising that would most likely work, and that i havent even considered that option.
hah me.

then again, who wants a workaround?
i say they include this is Live 7 as a feature instead.
thank you.

Why wait around. this is very easy to do in MaxMSP or PD. honestly you could put together a patch to accomplish this in a day or two.