REALTIME VOCODER?

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REALTIME VOCODER?

Post by TheHollow » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:42 am

SO I AM RUNNING LIVE IN A LIVE BAND SITUATION.. WE ARE LOOKING TO ROUTE VOCALS FROM THE VOCALISTS MIC, RUN THEM THROUGH LIVE (THEN THROUGH A VOCODER PLUGIN) THEN BACK TO FRONT OF HOUSE....

ANYONE GOT ANY BRIGHT IDEAS ON HOW TO DO THIS - AND ALSO CHOICE OF VOCODER THAT CAN DO EXACTLY THIS....

IM GUESSING SOME SORT OF A/B THING FOR THE MIC TO GO INTO, A BEING FOH AND B BEING TO THE MACBOOK FOR THE VOCODER...

IT WORKS IN MY MIND, BUT CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A HAND WITH EXACTLY HOW THIS IS DONE?
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Post by kramerica » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:48 am

STEP 1. USE ALL CAPS

STEP 2. ...
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Post by TheHollow » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:50 am

ON SECOND THOUGHTS --------

I WILL RUN A SEPERATE MIC TO MY AUDIOPHILLE... WHAT SHOULD I USE TO AMPLIFY THE MIC SIGNAL BEFORE IT GETS TO MY AUDIOPHILLE... WILL A NORMAL DI WORK?
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Post by TheHollow » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:51 am

Sorry im at work and i use caps constantly :(
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Post by funky shit » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:07 am

How is the audio from the vocalists mic going into live? via firewire device or what?

I have the solution i just need to know your setup.
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Post by dru » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:21 am

Howdy, another from WA then hey?

There are quite a few Vocoder plugins available although most of them sound crap. Best is probably ELS Vocoder (from what I've heard).

Otherwise, others are NI Vokator, mda Talkbox, etc. There's not too many unfortunately.

Try the demo of ELS or NI Vokator. And try do a search on this forum to figure out how to use it. :P

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Post by lunabass » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:10 pm

your other big issue with using a decent software vocoder is latency...some of them add a bit more than the average plug-in.

this is why i use the hardware vocoder in my nord micro on stage...that and coz it sounds sick :D
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Post by cavern » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:04 pm

the Orange vocoder works fine for me. pretty sure theres a function to amplify under Utility in effects.

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Post by sweetjesus » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:22 pm

i speak in front of a fan while it is turned on.

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Post by friend_kami » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:53 pm

sweetjesus wrote:i speak in front of a fan while it is turned on.
omg, teh robots are coming!

what?

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Post by sweetjesus » Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:11 pm

friend_kami wrote:
sweetjesus wrote:i speak in front of a fan while it is turned on.
omg, teh robots are coming!

what?
try it sometime..

if you speak from the back it sounds better as the fan grill tapers and you can get closer to the fanblades... speak with the fan on and you sound all vocoded n shit.

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Post by dru » Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:59 pm

Ahahaha, I remember doing that shit when I was 5!

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Post by TheHollow » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:07 am

thanks for all the replies! love the fan idea ill just set that up in front of the mic with a pop filter.

:)

audio card is a firewire audiophille

big hello to my man from perth also! whats up brother! haha.

also if anyone has any idea on what mic would work best for this? for live obviously i have a couple of beta 58s and an sm57 handy.. but is there anything you think could work better...

** also concerned about latency.. how long latency are we talking?
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Post by sweetjesus » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:18 am

dru wrote:Ahahaha, I remember doing that shit when I was 5!
lol must be an australian thing!
:D

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