Logic 8 finally released! NO JOKE THIS TIME!

djconrad · Post by **djconrad** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:08 pm

trip_out wrote:
djconrad wrote:On the UK Apple site Logic Studio is £319. In the US it is $499.
Using the XE currency converter $499=£247.
what the **** is going on??
Shipping, Import Duty, VAT.

C'mon this is with all products not just with this, and it is a pretty fair exchange for once. Look at Ableton - EUR549 & USD599 !!!!

Ha ha, yeah I knew all this, it was just a general rant, and yes it is a much better conversion than Live

unklmic · Post by **unklmic** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:11 pm

trip_out wrote:
djconrad wrote:On the UK Apple site Logic Studio is £319. In the US it is $499.
Using the XE currency converter $499=£247.
what the **** is going on??
Shipping, Import Duty, VAT.

C'mon this is with all products not just with this, and it is a pretty fair exchange for once. Look at Ableton - EUR549 & USD599 !!!!

Uhm - Wouldn't there be import taxes on buying Live in the USA, but not in Europe as it is made here!?

Surely it should cost a LOT less than EUR549?

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:23 pm

unklmic wrote:
trip_out wrote:
djconrad wrote:On the UK Apple site Logic Studio is £319. In the US it is $499.
Using the XE currency converter $499=£247.
what the **** is going on??
Shipping, Import Duty, VAT.

C'mon this is with all products not just with this, and it is a pretty fair exchange for once. Look at Ableton - EUR549 & USD599 !!!!
Uhm - Wouldn't there be import taxes on buying Live in the USA, but not in Europe as it is made here!?

Surely it should cost a LOT less than EUR549?

they have a us office

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:35 pm

headquest wrote: On another forum I just learnt that Logic 8 cannot (destructively) apply effects to an audio clip. I guess that rules it out as a post-production tool, which suprises me because I bought the pre-release rumours/hype that it would be the Pro Tools killer - obviously not their aim after all.

That's where Soundtrack Pro comes in.

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:39 pm

the manual says it alway applies effects destructively in the wave editor and that u should make copies of ur files.. am i missing sth?

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:40 pm

btw samplitude 10 was announced!

aqua_tek · Post by **aqua_tek** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:38 pm

Tarekith wrote:
Homebelly wrote:
aqua_tek wrote: 1) the library installment options aren't as flexible as i expected them to be. I mean, only a few of the audio library elements could be installed on an externa HD while i was pretty much forced to install the rest on my internal HD.
you can install all of the content any place you want to,, use the custom install option. There is a more detailed explanation on the sonikmatter site from Oscwilde,, check it out.
Aqua, I know what you're talking about, people kept telling me to do the custom install, but they don't realize that things like the Jam Packs HAVE to initially be installed on the internal drive. There's just no way to specify a different location during the install. However, Gamat at BigBlueLounge helped me with this advice (works great):
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you can install your jam pack and find them in your os X HD
(in LP7 it s in your home library / audio / apple loops)
after that you can copy them in another HD (with all your other apple loops)
thrash the apple loops index files in the folder "apple loops index" (near the apple loops folder)
Open Logic and the loop browser
and drag and drop all your apple loops folders (all the defferent folders) on the loop browser
Logic will ask you if you want to import and copy all the loops in your systeme HD or just index them
choose "just index"
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Yeah you need to install them on the internal drive first, and then copy them, but they work fine after doing the above. Don't even bother trying the older alias trick, dosen't work, Logic won't index the loops still. Loving it, good stuff in this release, it's clear the code underneath is cleaned up, everything operates much smoother and more predictably for me now.

That's great! thanks a bunch

BTW can i do this for other stuff as well? Like, garageband and exs samples? How would I do this? Sorry maybe i should just RTFM

theguru_ · Post by **theguru_** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:06 pm

FOLKS!

Guess what.
True killer is LOGIC8 + KEYMAP from redmatica.
Believe me. No brainer.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:27 pm

after going back and looking at EVERYTHING you could possibly get with Logic 8 I'm kind of sold

truth be told I'm sort of uninspired with Live at the moment - new toys always give you a little kick of inspiration but...

with Logic you get more than just a new toy - you get HELLA sh*t for dirt as* cheap

I'll keep live to play tracks and what not but the Vaio's going on CL tonight

dang yo...curious as to what Live's answer will be - not that they have to, mind you

they can do the cycling 74 Live collab and charge as much as they want

mickey disco · Post by **mickey disco** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:37 pm

forge wrote:
it's Gordon Brown's bastard tax - actually it'd Tony Blair's, Gordon just inherited it

like his job, eh?

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:54 pm

mickey disco wrote:
forge wrote:
it's Gordon Brown's bastard tax - actually it'd Tony Blair's, Gordon just inherited it
like his job, eh?

Either way it IS Gordon's tax. He was chancellor throughout the whole of the Blair years, so let's not allow him to pass the buck, eh

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:42 pm

djadonis206 wrote:after going back and looking at EVERYTHING you could possibly get with Logic 8 I'm kind of sold

truth be told I'm sort of uninspired with Live at the moment - new toys always give you a little kick of inspiration but...

with Logic you get more than just a new toy - you get HELLA sh*t for dirt as* cheap

I'll keep live to play tracks and what not but the Vaio's going on CL tonight

dang yo...curious as to what Live's answer will be - not that they have to, mind you

they can do the cycling 74 Live collab and charge as much as they want

I feel the same way and I think I am going to pick up logic 8 in the near future.

As an audio hobbyist I have always found the price of logic to be cost prohibitive, but at $499 it really does seem like an excelent deal. Not that I am going to stop using Ableton, but for me it will be nice to try something new.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:52 pm

Daim wrote:the manual says it alway applies effects destructively in the wave editor and that u should make copies of ur files.. am i missing sth?

Okay, I sought to clarify this with the longterm user who posted it, and got the following response:

Sascha Franke wrote:
headquest wrote:Can anyone clarifyh this? Can Logic 8 apply effects destructively or not?
Yes, but only the "FX" that are build into the sample editor. Which is barely nothing, just your usual trimming, reversing, normalizing and so.
There's no other FX (such as the internal Logic ones or AUs) available.

Oh btw, I'll let you folks in on another secret:
Logic 8 doesn't support long filenames! Yeah, you're reading correctly! 31 characters is still the limit for audio file names.
And, as if that wasn't bad enough already, here's another brilliant feature coming along with it: When you actually load an audiofile using more than 31 characters, Logic will happily truncate the filename without any further notice (in versions prior to LP7 you had at least a warning box and the file refused to load at all, so you could rename it manually in the Finder).
But ok, we should not wonder about that. I mean, long filenames are nothing common, only the very latest versions of whatever OS's finally got rid of the DOS limitations... *cough*.

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:16 pm

headquest wrote:
mickey disco wrote:
forge wrote:
it's Gordon Brown's bastard tax - actually it'd Tony Blair's, Gordon just inherited it
like his job, eh?
Either way it IS Gordon's tax. He was chancellor throughout the whole of the Blair years, so let's not allow him to pass the buck, eh

But I think Tony was a bigger bastard!

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:20 pm

It's early days...