kate and jerry mccann Innocent or Guilty?

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:45 pm

It's not 'pretending' anything. It's a simple statement of fact.

http://kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/ ... R_ID=47465

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:56 pm

hambone1 wrote:It's not 'pretending' anything. It's a simple statement of fact.

http://kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/ ... R_ID=47465

ya, its a true statement. But you used it in in response to the accusation that you're a cold hearted prick. So while it may be factual, its no defense for you. you are a cold hearted prick, your track record with respect threads on human suffering proves this without any doubt.

people discuss murder in the palestine, hambone1 gloats about riding his bike in the park. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

this time around you might be able to hide behind some kind of intellectual argument against the perverse nature of our media, but anyone who's spent alot of time on the forum knows what your M.O. is with respect human suffering.

nuff said

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:09 pm

I don't need to hide behind anything or anyone, dude.

Whether you or anyone else agrees or disagrees publicly with mine or anyone else's thoughts and opinions is your right to free speech, and is irrelevant to me.

It IS unfair to pre-judge the McCanns. I got that wrong. Time will tell...

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:49 am

I know absolutely nothing about this case/post. Most of the people posting seem to be in Europe. Is this a European case? Granted, I don't pay that much attention to the news but I am just curious if this story is a case of American media not covering it because if it isn't happening here or to our citizens elsewhere then why bother covering it. But then again I don't know how much coverage outside the US is given to our latest cases of missing/abducted attractive people.

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:14 am

hambone1 wrote:I don't need to hide behind anything or anyone, dude.

Whether you or anyone else agrees or disagrees publicly with mine or anyone else's thoughts and opinions is your right to free speech, and is irrelevant to me.

It IS unfair to pre-judge the McCanns. I got that wrong. Time will tell...

your a cruel,sick person.leave britney alone...

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:49 am

All i know is what ive seen on the TV and read in the paper.

I think both have been hyped up in order to find a little girl that is still alive to then suddenly be turned on its head with the mcanns becoming murder suspects.

The problem with the papers is they all want that breaking story, so little snipets of facts are gettin overused and exaggerated.

The problem with the TV is they only know what they have been told.

I dont know either way - except that evidence is starting to build up against he mcanns.

Time will tell, i just hope they find Madeline, dead or alive - or else we will never know whatever the verdict.

the girl next door · Post by **the girl next door** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:29 am

its a very tongue in cheek subject i really think they are innocent and just want there little girl back.How many people go down these days for something they never did? Remember the Birmingham 6 (The six accused of the Birmingham bombings 1975) i also know someone from Dudley who went down for Rape for 5 years he swears blind he never did it all it took was some girl to cry rape ..Shit like that can happen to anyone of us..
Can you imagine doing time (10-20 Years for being in the wrong place at the wrong time or just losing your daughter)If they are innocent and they do go down for it......Well how would you feel

I don't know about you lot but i couldn't hack doing time.
(Being in the Army Nick overnight for fighting with the Turks down town Dortmund back in the 80s is enough,But not that i would know anything about that

)
Then again people get away with murder all the time.... OJ Simpson to name but a few.

ictus · Post by **ictus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:23 am

pulsoc wrote:
ictus wrote: Again, fuck the pricks who are making fun of this, seriously go and fuck yourselves!!!
Yeaaahhh. I think you're misusing the 'twisted' emoticon here buddy.

heh, yeah, it was meant to be the 'angry' icon.

anyway,

ictus · Post by **ictus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:32 am

the girl next door wrote:its a very tongue and cheek subject i really think they are innocent and just want there little girl back.How many people go down these days for something they never did? Remember the Birmingham 6 (The six accused of the Birmingham bombings 1975) i also know someone from Dudley who went down for Rape for 5 years he swears blind he never did it all it took was some girl to cry rape ..Shit like that can happen to anyone of us..
Can you imagine doing time (10-20 Years for being in the wrong place at the wrong time or just losing your daughter)If they are innocent and they do go down for it......Well how would you feel
I don't know about you lot but i couldn't hack doing time.
(Being in the Army Nick overnight for fighting with the Turks down town Dortmund back in the 80s is enough,But not that i would know anything about that )
Then again people get any with murder all the time.... OJ Simpson to name but a few.

Yeah the Birmingham 6 got a mega bum deal, and teh rape case you were on about a friend of yours happened to somebody I know as well. Bang out of order. And what about that solicitor woman last year was it, where she did a few years for 'killing' her daughter and was eventually released.....needless to say the poor woman killed herself after spending so long inside and it obviously screwed her up as she knew she was innocent. I totlally feel the McCanns are innocent and hope common sense prevails.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:13 am

b0unce wrote: I think the question is, does anyone think the portuguese police force would actually try and frame the mccanns considering this case is being watched by the western world's media ? Anyone got any thoughts on this ?

I read yesterday that one of the lead Portugese investigators on the case is, himself, under investigation regrding allegations arising from a previous case three years ago...

Apparently then (when another young child was abducted) he allegedly TORTURED the mother into confessing to murder. (Later she was proved innocent).

Makes you think....

smartass303 · Post by **smartass303** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:07 am

hambone1 wrote: Heard about the new Renault McCann? Fit three kids in the back, and one in the boot!

Shit,
wheres my ROFLcopter when i need it?
You heard that they burnt maddie in a pet-crematorium?
Awesome story, theyll go to jail in Portugal i guess...

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rikhyray · Post by **rikhyray** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:05 pm

For me the really sad part is, how many children`s lives could be saved -EVERYDAY with the money people donate for the search and now legal fund.
Yes, those clips repeated in all papers and TV channel, she is/was cute, little angel. Sorry but I feel all those donors should be ashamed for letting being seduced by the glamour media. How can you deal with being selective whom to help, reminds somehow of the nazis "preselection"
Come on , do you want to tell me there would be that much money collected if the girl was "unpretty" not cute at all, daugther of fat unattractive Jamaican or Vietnamese mother and Pakistani shopkeeper from Southall ?
Child or not if you rich and good looking you will be loved, protected, defended. If you ugly, sick, deformed, poor etc.... Lord have mercy.
Killed by a pervert or your own mother it is sad, heartbreaking, touching. But isn't it even worse that hundreds die everyday, without notice, any attention, without your concern, emotions. We should ask oursleves what is wrong with us, why we let ourselves being played by the media, pics, videos. Common and any other sense tell us all clearly, we all know it , yet it is so easy not to see, ignore, not bother.
Great! with the help of media provided "emphaty, peace, love and understanding" pill, get our human, humanitarian conscience fed. "I am good Christian, shed my tears over poor angel" now back to everyday business of heartlessness.

smartass303 · Post by **smartass303** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:17 pm

Another post & you are up to date mr. ray!
Yeah, and a +1 from me...
Always the same. Remember "der kleine Pascal" @ tosa Klause? Or the "kleine Julia".
What bothers me most is the sheer unawareness about whats going on in the rest of the world. Whos crying for children in middle/south america dying from bad drinking water?
No, people are paying money for a stupid rat race in portugal!
I think she killed her child and a) burried her under this new built sidewalk or b) burnt her in the pet crematory.

sad,

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andydes · Post by **andydes** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:55 pm

Well, none of us really know the facts of the case.

I do think it strange the the DNA samples were taken from a car hired 25 days after she went missing. That would mean if guity, the parents would have had to have moved the body whilst being watched by the police and in the middle of a media circus they themselves have encouraged. Seems pretty had to pull off.

What's shocking is the way the case has turned into a media grudge match between the british press trying their best to show the portuguese investigation as incompetetent and the local press blaming the parents.

ictus · Post by **ictus** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:04 pm

smartass303 wrote:I think she killed her child and a) burried her under this new built sidewalk or b) burnt her in the pet crematory.

sad,

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Back up these ludicrous statements you have. Or are you merely trying to make yourself look funny, which believe me you aint.

So come on big shot, give us some 'jokes' on, say for example, Jamie Bulger, Sarah Payne, Jessica and Holly, the moors murderers victims. I beht you have a whoooooole bunch of them to tell your 'mates', yeah?

Scrotes like you wind me up no end.

kate and jerry mccann Innocent or Guilty?

What do you think....?