Noob: basic recording question about takes/recording overdub

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yoozer
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Noob: basic recording question about takes/recording overdub

Post by yoozer » Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:46 am

Forgive me for what may be obvious? In some other DAWs I am used to recording in a looped section, and when it loops, it non-destructively continues recording, but I can get back all the previous passes as "takes" or clips if I choose. I can't seem to see where these clips go in Live, they seem to increment by number, but I can't seem to get back to anything that isn't visible in the arrangement view. Is this stuff just gone? I don't see it in project folder either.

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Post by zorton » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:08 am

Same question...
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Post by Amaury » Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:44 am

Hello,

You should definitely read chapter 14.3.1 of the Live 6 manual. It tells you everything about loop recording in Arrangement view.

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Post by yoozer » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:33 pm

thanks, I see I can unroll it as one big clip, but can I step back through takes incrementally without scanning the entire sample?

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Post by Amaury » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:05 pm

yoozer wrote:thanks, I see I can unroll it as one big clip, but can I step back through takes incrementally without scanning the entire sample?
Hi,

the manual also tells you how to unroll one take after the other.

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Post by yoozer » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:32 pm

thanks. . .I have the manual. I thought "Noob" in my subject line was humility enough but. . .no offense meant, but why answer if you are going to simply tell me to read the manual with no more specific detail? Translation: I've read it, and it's still not clear to me. Im sure I'm missing something. Care to elaborate?
Amaury wrote:
yoozer wrote:thanks, I see I can unroll it as one big clip, but can I step back through takes incrementally without scanning the entire sample?
Hi,

the manual also tells you how to unroll one take after the other.

Regards,
Amaury

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Post by yoozer » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:38 pm

here's what you get in section 14.3.1:

You can later unroll a loop recording, either by repeatedly using the Edit menu’s Undo command or graphically in the Clip View: After loop recording, double-click on the new clip. In the Clip View’s Sample Display, you can see a long sample containing all audio recorded during the loop-recording process. The Clip View’s loop brace denes the audio taken in the last pass; moving the markers left lets you audition the audio from previous passes.

To me this means you have to scroll the sample and move loop braces, not step through takes incrementally.

Is there another section I'm not aware of?
Amaury wrote:
the manual also tells you how to unroll one take after the other.

Regards,
Amaury

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Post by laird » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:23 pm

You are correct, Live does not save "takes" the way other DAWs do.

The data is still there, and you can select them fairly manually inside the clip window... but there is no drop-down window for "take 1, take 2, take 3".

With Warp markers and pitch envelopes, who needs to do more than one take? ;)

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Post by xxxmorphicxxx » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:45 pm

I know what your asking... Live is good at this in one aspect, and not so good in another.

When you record a loop, if you make 5 attempts in a 4 bar loop, your going to have 20 measure of "rolled" material you can work with. You can even stretch it out, cut/paste/copy and make a perfect take from the 5 flawed ones.

If you want to have a file folder of samples that you can return to, you unfortunately cannot record in loop mode, otherwise you will only see the huge file.

This is the workaround. Make sure you rename the track title to what you are recording. For example, if you are recording Josh's Chorus Guitar, name the track "J Guit Ch" or something similar. Let's assume it's on track 5.

When you record your first take, it will be called "0001 5-J Guit Ch". If you're not happy and record it again, the next is "0002 5-J Guit Ch" etc. The first number is the take number, the second is the track it was recorded on, and then the title of the track. These can all be found in the project folder under samples, until you clean them out. They are easily accessible and managed through Live's file browser. Manage the project, and go to unused project samples. They should all be there right in a row where you can preview them and drag them into your set.

I know that's not exactly what you are looking for, but it's a temporary solution until Ableton looks at adding a few more DAW features. It's worked for me, anyways.

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