Pricing on Live 7

spinacci · Post by **spinacci** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:50 am

MarkH wrote:I own Live 6, Operator, Sampler, and EIC. I fall in this category:

Upgrade to Ableton Suite (Boxed)

Includes:
Live 6 to Live 7 Upgrade (Box)
Session Drums
Analog
Tension
Electric
Drum Machines

USD $399 ($299 without Session Durms, which I'm willing to ditch)

Hmmm, that's weird. I have EIC, Operator, Sampler for Live 6 as well yet the upgrade to Ableton Suite for me is USD $419. Did your EIC license fall under License 1 or 2? Mine is License 2. I wonder if that is why I have a $20 price difference from yours.

BinaryB · Post by **BinaryB** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:12 am

dCross wrote:
LOFA wrote:I can't figure out what kind of price break I get as a pre-existing owner of operator and sampler. Is it in my interest to sell these liscenses before upgrading from my boxed 6 with EIC?

Does owning operator and sampler give me a price reduction?
Can you log into your Ableton account and visit:
http://www.ableton.com/live-7-upgrades
...?

You should have a custom pricing calculator there.

I couldnt find any custom pricing calculator here

jrathkopf · Post by **jrathkopf** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:02 pm

does anyone know, if i decide to upgrade to the instruments suite, can i sell off one of the instruments if i want? for instance, i really wouldnt want the analog instrument.

octatone · Post by **octatone** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:27 pm

I still can't believe live doesn't ship with some basic non-rompler synths. Fucking bullshit. Add-ons? THESE THINGS SHOULD BE SHIPPED WITH THE PRODUCT. And their pricepoints are fucking ludicrous.

I guess now that they finally have time signature support they can tack on $500 for the feature? WTF?

liberaltugboat · Post by **liberaltugboat** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:04 pm

Well I am new to the whole Live thing (I have Live Lite 6, and have been playing with the full demo) and I was considering jumping on board once Live 7 came out (since everyone knew it was coming), but after seeing the prices...
I think it may now be out of the question (and out of my price range)
$1000 bucks if you want the the full package with synths? Even with live lite discount it is almost $700 bucks. And those synths can't even be used in other hosts.
I know that live has unique features that no other DAWS have, but at the same time this just seems high to me. I understand they are trying to become a full blown DAW suite but while other companies seem to be adding more and/or charging less or keeping prices the same (sonar 7 and logic 8 are good examples), so that more people can jump on board with project studios, Ableton seems to be pushing their software as a "Pro" only with the pricing for 7.
I can go to cakewalk and get Sonar 7 producer, Project 5, Dimension Pro, and Rapture for $676 (that is the new customer price) (That is ALOT of software for the money).
And I need not say how much logic costs.
Now I dont want to get into a which DAW is better war, but I just want to show what kind of pricing options are out there.
IMHO it seems like Live has gone into the elitist "pro" pricing. Which pushes me out of owning it. Sucks for me huh. Guess its back to FL Studio for me.
Thanks for hearing what I have to say.

v00d00ppl · Post by **v00d00ppl** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:09 pm

BinaryB wrote:
dCross wrote:
LOFA wrote:I can't figure out what kind of price break I get as a pre-existing owner of operator and sampler. Is it in my interest to sell these liscenses before upgrading from my boxed 6 with EIC?

Does owning operator and sampler give me a price reduction?
Can you log into your Ableton account and visit:
http://www.ableton.com/live-7-upgrades
...?

You should have a custom pricing calculator there.
I couldnt find any custom pricing calculator here

make sure you are logged in your user account.

peace

fragchamp · Post by **fragchamp** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:33 am

It's true, you get $20 discount each for EIC/Sampler/Operator, and don't expect any changes. Check out the tactics. One week Sampler's $199. Next week they put it on "sale" for $149 knowing full well the week after it's going to be effectively $40. Bad form.

Nokatus · Post by **Nokatus** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:55 am

liberaltugboat wrote:$1000 bucks if you want the the full package with synths?

That's the full package with synths, Sampler, session drums, drum machines and essential instrument collection 2. (Around 38 gigabytes of content plus the synths and sampler).

The (download) package with all the synths, Sampler, and drum machine content is $799, minus the discount from your lite license.

That being said, I'm deciding between the Live application upgrade ($119) and the boxed upgrade with session drums and drum machines ($299). I can always use a good drum/percussion solution, but I really don't need new synths / tonal instruments. At least these particular upgrade prices ($119 for the application upgrade alone, or $299 for the application, printed manual + box, 24 gigabytes of multisampled acoustic drums and 500 megabytes of drum machine content) are, in my opinion, decent.

rbro · Post by **rbro** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:22 am

I waited on upgrading to 6 from 5, but I think I will upgrade to 7. I would want to upgrade to the suite boxed, but I guess there's not really any incentive to upgrade to Live 6 first. If I did it that way it would cost me 119 to upgrade to 6, then 459 to upgrade to the boxed suite = $578 (I currently don't own Operator, Sampler or the EIC and would want them all). If I just do the straight upgrade from 5 to the 7 boxed suite it would cost me $519, unless I'm missing something. Plus I can get the edu. discount, so it will be even cheaper, but unless I'm missing something, I save $59 by not upgrading to 6 now.

moudimixer · Post by **moudimixer** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:11 am

I find it somehow ironic that Apple lowers the price of Logic from 999 USD to a price close to Live 6, while Live 7 suites' s price is more near the price of the old Logic.
Makes me think which way to go now.....

spinacci · Post by **spinacci** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:46 am

spinacci wrote:
MarkH wrote:I own Live 6, Operator, Sampler, and EIC. I fall in this category:

Upgrade to Ableton Suite (Boxed)

Includes:
Live 6 to Live 7 Upgrade (Box)
Session Drums
Analog
Tension
Electric
Drum Machines

USD $399 ($299 without Session Durms, which I'm willing to ditch)

Hmmm, that's weird. I have EIC, Operator, Sampler for Live 6 as well yet the upgrade to Ableton Suite for me is USD $419. Did your EIC license fall under License 1 or 2? Mine is License 2. I wonder if that is why I have a $20 price difference from yours.

Can someone who has purchased the boxed version of Live 6 with Operator, Sampler, and EIC post how much the upgrade to the Suite costs? Is it $399 or $419? I'm seeing $419 right now but Mark above is seeing $399. I'm trying to figure out why there is a difference. My EIC is listed as a License 2 instead of 1. Not sure why. Maybe because I bought the box version of Live 6 instead of purchasing the EIC separately. Is this the reason for the $20 difference?

thanks a bunch!

dave dominey · Post by **dave dominey** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:32 pm

i emailed them about why there was only a 20 euro discount when operator was removed from my discount offer.

i advise others to do the same

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