is Analog phat? u decide.. (lil audio sample)

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:35 pm

sweetjesus wrote:
kabuki wrote:Just sound compressed better (would seem that sidechain compression is the improvement. Not the synth).

I have been messing with Logic 8. THAT is fat.
you're just making excuses now.. you make music without compressors?

I don't make music. I post on forums.

Teh FAT bass is attainable with the right eqing, filters, disto and compression. With nearly any soft synth. IMO. I think the standout quality of your snippit is the compressor doing its sidechaining ducking.

IMO.

Sorry. I'm just NOT impressed with what the Abs have offered, ecsept the slicer/drum thingy and the much needed Sidechain Compressor.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:45 pm

kabuki wrote:Sorry. I'm just NOT impressed with what the Abs have offered, ecsept the slicer/drum thingy and the much needed Sidechain Compressor.

.. i just wanted to make nice bass with analogue man..

u breakz my heart

Recycle = $100
BAttery = $300?
Cheapest decent compressor with sidechain i found = $80

Total: ~$480

Live 7 upgrade roughly ~$150

you do the math on what id rather spend monies on

greta · Post by **greta** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:53 pm

I don't know what you crazy kids are calling 'phat' these days but that sounded pretty damn good!

rat · Post by **rat** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:00 pm

I aldready have operator...does analog sound much warmer and better than operator? i cant get the beta and i am really curious whether i will have a place for both synths in my collection.

thehuman · Post by **thehuman** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:02 pm

sweetjesus wrote:
kabuki wrote:Sorry. I'm just NOT impressed with what the Abs have offered, ecsept the slicer/drum thingy and the much needed Sidechain Compressor.
.. i just wanted to make nice bass with analogue man..

u breakz my heart

Recycle = $100
BAttery = $300?
Cheapest decent compressor with sidechain i found = $80

Total: ~$480

Live 7 upgrade roughly ~$150

you do the math on what id rather spend monies on

I agree with what you're saying there, but in all reality Live is by no means replacing Battery. The Drum Racks seem cool, but still can't touch Battery. Plus, you can get B3 for $120, not $300. Otherwise good points.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:04 pm

rat wrote:I aldready have operator...does analog sound much warmer and better than operator?

Krazy Baldhead (ppeeddrroo) on the forums gets operator sounding very fat with the deeper thunkier sounds.

i dont feel Operator for raw fatness though, but it sits in a mix quite well sometimes and doesnt sound 'thin' in places other synths would occupy the space too much and processing them with EQ's etc takes from their character.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:05 pm

thehuman wrote:
sweetjesus wrote:
kabuki wrote:Sorry. I'm just NOT impressed with what the Abs have offered, ecsept the slicer/drum thingy and the much needed Sidechain Compressor.
.. i just wanted to make nice bass with analogue man..

u breakz my heart

Recycle = $100
BAttery = $300?
Cheapest decent compressor with sidechain i found = $80

Total: ~$480

Live 7 upgrade roughly ~$150

you do the math on what id rather spend monies on
I agree with what you're saying there, but in all reality Live is by no means replacing Battery. The Drum Racks seem cool, but still can't touch Battery. Plus, you can get B3 for $120, not $300. Otherwise good points.

$120 is a pretty cool deal.

What aspects of BAttery do you feel you could see in Drum Racks.

I used Battery in the past and it was cool, but I wasn't that much a hardcore user. I know its got some funky mod stuff but not sure about the rest.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:28 pm

sweetjesus wrote:
What aspects of BAttery do you feel you could see in Drum Racks.

- convo reverb
- humanize functions
- velocity layering
- resizeable drum grid
- lots of crashes

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:30 pm

sweetjesus wrote:.. i just wanted to make nice bass with analogue man..

u breakz my heart

It sounds good....makes me anxious to get paws on the beta!!

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:32 pm

ethios4 wrote:Reminds me of a nervous elephant trying to shit while a giant angry bee keeps trying to sting it's ass!

I think Analog is nice for someone who doesn't have a top class virtual analog. However, I don't think it's as good as Sylenth1 by any stretch. Now the integration with Live is a big selling point, but if I had to pick between the two, Sylenth1 for sure. My two cents.

I will say that it's prolly better than most of the rest (Albino, Vanguard, Predator) at least to my ears.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:34 pm

I hope this isn't too much of a stretch, but for people who aren't beta yet, check out the specs on Ultra Analog from AAS

http://www.applied-acoustics.com/ultraanalog.htm

sound demos are there too.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:35 pm

nebulae wrote:
ethios4 wrote:Reminds me of a nervous elephant trying to shit while a giant angry bee keeps trying to sting it's ass!
I think Analog is nice for someone who doesn't have a top class virtual analog. However, I don't think it's as good as Sylenth1 by any stretch. Now the integration with Live is a big selling point, but if I had to pick between the two, Sylenth1 for sure. My two cents.

I will say that it's prolly better than most of the rest (Albino, Vanguard, Predator) at least to my ears.

what about Z3ta? that's one I've been reading raves about for many moons. are all the ones you mentioned virtual analog?

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:50 pm

here's a quick test I did when bored. synths are Analog (bass and main arp), then there's a sliced break, a drum rack full of samples and an Operator drop kick.
- and yes, I was on a 90s nostalgia trip... what can I say, I'm a sucker for early Chemical Bros.
http://covops.dreamhosters.com/dropbox/ ... render.mp3

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:50 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
nebulae wrote:
ethios4 wrote:Reminds me of a nervous elephant trying to shit while a giant angry bee keeps trying to sting it's ass!
I think Analog is nice for someone who doesn't have a top class virtual analog. However, I don't think it's as good as Sylenth1 by any stretch. Now the integration with Live is a big selling point, but if I had to pick between the two, Sylenth1 for sure. My two cents.

I will say that it's prolly better than most of the rest (Albino, Vanguard, Predator) at least to my ears.
what about Z3ta? that's one I've been reading raves about for many moons. are all the ones you mentioned virtual analog?

I went back and forth as to include Z3ta+ on my list of virtual analogs. I think Z3ta has a special place because it's so incredibly powerful and was the kind of the heap for so long. By today's standards, it's a steal for $90 street value, and the sound is still ridiculously phat. However, there is a smoothness and an organic-ness that's missing, and Z3ta sounds a bit digital to me when compared to the current kings of the heap (Sylenth1 and Zebra). Again, this is all subjective.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:54 pm

Machinate wrote:here's a quick test I did when bored. synths are Analog (bass and main arp), then there's a sliced break, a drum rack full of samples and an Operator drop kick.
- and yes, I was on a 90s nostalgia trip... what can I say, I'm a sucker for early Chemical Bros.
http://covops.dreamhosters.com/dropbox/ ... render.mp3

Note to noobs...this is what he does when he's BORED....

I'm going to shoot myself now.