YOUR way of working when performing live...

ultrasonyk · Post by **ultrasonyk** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:24 pm

hi all,

i'm curious about YOUR way of working when performing live

do you use midi tracks with midi clips playing notes to vst's or
ableton's native devices like impulse or sampler. Or do you record finished audio clips and
just trigger them when playing live? Or do you finish a complete song in arrangement view and just hit play on the stage? Or another method?

shoot!

ultrasonyk · Post by **ultrasonyk** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:28 pm

double post...

4.33 · Post by **4.33** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:51 pm

my feeling is it's best to keep it simple and stupid onstage

to avoid hassle with selecting vsti presets and also save up cpu - i cut&render everything as audio loops. then i open a premade "live" set with midi assignments and cram everything up there. then the clip's view gain comes in use to adjust the clips volume to be in line with the whole set.

but as i've ordered bitstream 3x which has a built in arpeggiator i hope to run some beats on midi tracks through the thing

ultrasonyk · Post by **ultrasonyk** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:08 pm

Don't you get quality loss of the audio you render to audio clips?
or are there other disadvantages regarding recorded audio in live
instead of playing a vst's audio output?

4.33 · Post by **4.33** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:26 pm

24bit renders are absolutely fine)

ultrasonyk · Post by **ultrasonyk** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:31 pm

what's the default bitrate?

WaveRider · Post by **WaveRider** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:38 pm

ultrasonyk wrote:hi all,

i'm curious about YOUR way of working when performing live

do you use midi tracks with midi clips playing notes to vst's

this is what I do... cause I tweak synths live.

4.33 · Post by **4.33** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:40 pm

ultrasonyk wrote:what's the default bitrate?

16 or 24 which you can choose in live's prefs

ultrasonyk · Post by **ultrasonyk** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:50 pm

whats the disadvantage of using 24?

4.33 · Post by **4.33** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:58 pm

hey, your soundcard converts everything that comes out of it to 24 bits anyway, so there's no difference between any instrument (either vsti or hardware) played through it and rendered audio from that instrument)))

4.33 · Post by **4.33** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:59 pm

speaking of disadvantages - 24bit audio takes up more harddisk space than 16bit

ultrasonyk · Post by **ultrasonyk** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:44 pm

well speaking of VST's i understand that the quality of the audio should be
the same. but speaking of hardware synth's i can't image the output
quality would be the same as i would record a .wav from that device and play it
in ableton live.

4.33 · Post by **4.33** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:59 pm

as long as you record it in 24bit - it will be identical!

another story is when you feed your synth midi data from ableton and output the signal from the synth to a hardware mixer. in this case the signal will not be affected by your soundcard converters, and "spoiled" by dithering

but when you plug your synth directly into your soundcard - your signal is within the converters framework. that's 24bit for pro soundcards

and that's not too awful, really

i wouldnt be able to tell the difference

evitan · Post by **evitan** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:47 am

i prefer using midi clips, that gives ou the freedom to tweak things live.
only sometimes i use audioloops mostly for drums, i do that with 16bit.

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