AESNYC07: Ableton's CEO Speaks on Live 7

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:36 am

cripes

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:48 am

dango · Post by **dango** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:23 am

this is very much an effort to make sure quality is alright, to make sure the sound you put in comes out alright and not altered unless you wanted it

thank you. i knew it was not just me nor my ears. i knew live was the culprit. not to spark the 20 page "my MPC sounds better than Live" thread, but this shows that Live's sound engine was not up to the par it could be at. thank god it was fixed.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:18 am

dango wrote:
this is very much an effort to make sure quality is alright, to make sure the sound you put in comes out alright and not altered unless you wanted it
thank you. i knew it was not just me nor my ears. i knew live was the culprit. not to spark the 20 page "my MPC sounds better than Live" thread, but this shows that Live's sound engine was not up to the par it could be at. thank god it was fixed.

i bet they didnt change a thing.

those CEO classes are coming in handy!

ha

nah its shiteloads better

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:14 am

Well, actually that "first half" of the efforts put into Live 7 sound like Live grew quite organically in the past and that at one point they lost track of what is "happening under the hood". That doesn't mean though that Live 6 and before did alter your sound in a way it shouldn't, it just means that Ableton could not guarantee it didn't because they themself didn't know anymore at which stages sound got altered.

I can imagine that this was a major effort and took much of the time when it came to realizing Live 7. Dipping through all the code, documenting everything = all boredom, no excitement, but necessary work to be done to make Live ready for future improvements. Also I can imagine that the team who had to do this work gained a deeper understanding of what's happening within their own code and application. One example is a current bug with the new Compressor that we're tracking in the beta forum at the moment. By just getting a bunch of rendered audio-files of a project by Nebulae that included several third-party pluging they were in very short time able to identify the source of the problem.

Don't underestimate the relevance of this effort! And ask yourself: Are you willing to pay for the Upgrade even when several core features are still missing once you know that the money is still well spend on making Live future-ready and more stable/consistent and that your money will pay for the effort the engineers/coders put into consolidating Live?

Everyone has to answer that question by himself. But to me it seems that Live 7 (not regarding the optional extra payable instruments) is worth to upgrade to and waiting for Live 8 wont be in vein. Even when Live 7 is not all that "shiney" as one might have expected it to be.

PS: Did he say "shiney"? Yeah, there you've got the proof that Nebulae is all wrong about Gerhard: He's a Browncoat!

(Great post by Neb, btw *thumbs-up*)

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:21 pm

Timur, did you get hacked or something the other day?

nebulae wrote:I'll sleep on it and come up with a fun fun in about 9 hours.

Last week, I made the mistake of telling some great funny stories for my son before bed...now, every fraking night, it's "Dad, gimme a funny story!" If that wasn't pressure enough, now it's you punk asses...geez...

Next weekend I think I'll put on a fine Italian suit and repaint my apartment.

Igor L · Post by **Igor L** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:30 pm

dango wrote:
this is very much an effort to make sure quality is alright, to make sure the sound you put in comes out alright and not altered unless you wanted it
thank you. i knew it was not just me nor my ears. i knew live was the culprit. not to spark the 20 page "my MPC sounds better than Live" thread, but this shows that Live's sound engine was not up to the par it could be at. thank god it was fixed.

Personally I'm not reading that much into Gerhard's statement. I think that 64-bit summing improves Live in the same way it would improve any other 32-bit daw. I also think that part of the reason this was implemented was to put an end to the constant clamoring over the non-existant coloration issues that were being brought up.

Igor L · Post by **Igor L** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:58 pm

double post

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:00 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:Timur, did you get hacked or something the other day?

Nope, I clarified that in the other thread. Someone got confused.

Think Ableton will bring out a special Firefly/Serenity edition once in a while? That would be so "shiney"!

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:53 pm

forge wrote:
nebulae wrote: Send me a few pictures, and I'll write all sorts of stories about you, Dom, Amaury, Christian, and whomever else I owe pastries.

well since you ask.....

this is from last years Camp - lets see what you can do with it...

enjoy ...
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74956