Anyone using a TTM 57SL?

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:16 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:Blimey... now the DJM700 is looking kinda sweet. Fuck man. I'm going to have to pull the trigger on this at some point. HELP!!!!!

http://abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9716

Yeah, I was going to say I'd go with a pioneer 800 over that rane mixer, but I already have serato. I think I'm partial to pioneer because my old 500 has served me so well for so many years now, and is still going strong. But I still lust after an 800, just an 800 and an efx 1000 and all will be right in my world....

I didn't even know there was a 700 out.

Then there is also the A&H Xone 3D....... I'd be hard pressed choosing between that and the 800, but would probably end up going with the 800 because it's a bit cheaper and because I'm familiar with pioneer products. Now, if money were absolutely no object I'd probably go wit the A&H... hell, maybe both.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:27 pm

PS. I was going to suggest going to the rane forums and looking around, but that forum is pretty much the most useless community I've ever joined. At least the serato side, hundreds of pages of noisy posts from these teenage kids (then you check their myspace profile and find out they are in their mid thirties) bashing N0oBz and asking about Da New 50 Cent or Timbaland joint.

They do have a dedicated TTM 57SL forum though.

Seriously, it's funny when I see people complain about this forum. Hang on the serato board for a couple of days and try to find anything remotely useful. And the board is fully moderated... There are some decent posters there, but it's few and far between.

Makes me extremely grateful for this community.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. My bad.

chrysalis33rpm · Post by **chrysalis33rpm** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:28 pm

Really, that surprises me your reaction to the Serato forum. I spent some time on it a while back and found it to be pretty helpful, and very tighty patrolled by the Rane staff (not entirely a good thing, but absolutely no political posts for instance). Anyway, I dont have serato...

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:20 pm

I contacted Rane today and they said if I ordered a TTM 57SL now, it's likely I won't get it until the first week of December. It's popular and back ordered.

I agree with MBox that the 44.1kHz 16 bit thing is lame. My big plan for the future was to work in 96kHz as my new standard.

I suppose I have time to think about it now.

I imagine I'll go with the 57SL though.

BinaryB · Post by **BinaryB** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:15 am

From the Serato forum...

57 sounds sooo good. I compared it to a Pioneer DJM-800 at the club this weekend, and the 57 sound much "warmer" and have a better "punch" in the sound. The sound more "phat", hard to discribe in words but I was suprised that 57 sounded so much better than DJM-800.

Big ups for the 57!

I like the pioneer mixers but when i sold my DJM600 it was because i realised how crap they sound on a big system. really thin.

Rane make some of the best quality gear around.
they blow chunks on pioneer as far as quality is concerned.

But they are both fun to use. If you gonna rock it - it dont matter what mixer you are using.

unless you are playing tarnce.

Sales Dude McBoob · Post by **Sales Dude McBoob** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:57 pm

I spoke to a dude who had used a 57SL before and he said he liked it, but the thing is that most clubs aren't really into having you show up with your own mixer and messing around with the club's system. That wasn't a surprise. I'm not envisioning myself walking around with a DJ mixer in my backpack. Well, okay, I am envisioning that, but only in a daydream-like sense.

I just like the idea that I can use the 57SL as a raw analog mixer to play records with. I can build my chops with those basic ingredients. I like the idea of only having 2 channels as opposed to 4. The less is more kinda thing. I like the idea of learning Serato as opposed to NI or Numark or all the other time code vinyl control systems. I like the idea of incorporating the vinyl control into experimental home studio use. It seems like if I spent all of my time on something like the DJM-800, I would get used to all of those bells and whistles.

Anyway. I'm taking the plunge.

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:27 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:I spoke to a dude who had used a 57SL before and he said he liked it, but the thing is that most clubs aren't really into having you show up with your own mixer and messing around with the club's system. That wasn't a surprise. I'm not envisioning myself walking around with a DJ mixer in my backpack. Well, okay, I am envisioning that, but only in a daydream-like sense. :)

I just like the idea that I can use the 57SL as a raw analog mixer to play records with. I can build my chops with those basic ingredients. I like the idea of only having 2 channels as opposed to 4. The less is more kinda thing. I like the idea of learning Serato as opposed to NI or Numark or all the other time code vinyl control systems. I like the idea of incorporating the vinyl control into experimental home studio use. It seems like if I spent all of my time on something like the DJM-800, I would get used to all of those bells and whistles.

Anyway. I'm taking the plunge.

I'm not much of a DJ anymore; I tried incorporating turntablism with Live back when Final Scratch 1.5 was out, and it sucked big time... So I haven't bothered with any of those other DJ vinyl emulation packages since.

However...

I have a friend who produces his own stuff and gigs on Serato using only one turntable. He friggin loves it, and it looks retardedly simple to use. If I were to go into that market again, I would probably go Serato, assuming they have that whole "destructive editing" problem fixed...

see this thread for details...

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16955

BinaryB · Post by **BinaryB** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:35 pm

I think the destructive editing thing is only a problem if you want to warp whole tracks in ableton to dj with.

Some DJ's would say that is a lame way to DJ and you should just make tracks in Ableton or play LIVE with Live. Then this aint a problem.

And DJ with Serato - with some of your tracks you make in Live.

I used NI traktor and it failed on me at EVERY gig i tried it with.

Serato worked first time and has never failed me. Its like Ableton = good.

Serato + Ableton. Get used to it because its a killer combo a lot of people are going to end up with. No bells and whistles - just good tracks and good skills.

BinaryB · Post by **BinaryB** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:38 pm

And NI are one of the companies that remind you they are about biz (+bugs) not music.

Just ask Forge.

Serato + Ableton know how to beta test. NI get their customers to do this then they charge for the update... i mean bug fix.

djn8 · Post by **djn8** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:11 pm

This is alittle off-topic, but I was wondering if it was possible to run both ableton and serato simultaneously on one computer?

I'm working with a 3.2 ghx 1g ram toshiba running windows xp. Prolly would need a mac for two soundcards eh?

nuxnamon · Post by **nuxnamon** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:09 am

it's definitely possible.. I really looked into it and thought about getting a macbook pro.. but decided to get a refurbished macbook core 2 duo for serato and the latest macbook for ableton.. almost the same price as one macbook pro.. it beats switching between screens between the two programs and most importantly, more stable.. although if you don't do video on serato, you should be fine.. just beef up on the RAM..