Can this be done in Live 7??? I don't know how

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What you talkin bout Willis?

Post by abledude » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:13 pm

Deft, that racks idea doesn't work at all. Not even close. What's the send trick??? :?: :?: :?: Who is hoffman2k? Does he work at Ableton? Is Dick Cheney's daughter pushing Fred Thompson?

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Post by dj superflat » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:47 pm

you got a lot of responses commenting on your tone, little by way of actual help. maybe there's no connection.

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Re: What you talkin bout Willis?

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:52 pm

abledude wrote:Deft, that racks idea doesn't work at all. Not even close. What's the send trick??? :?: :?: :?: Who is hoffman2k? Does he work at Ableton? Is Dick Cheney's daughter pushing Fred Thompson?
weird, it should, I just tried it.

start with nothing in the send (Send A)
turn Send A on Send A all the way up (this enables it to work as an I/O for your sampler)
then right click Send A and hit "enable sends"

ahhh, maybe you need to hit it with audio. to try it send a piece of audio to send A.

the difference should be obvious right away.
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Post by abledude » Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:57 pm

Hey Tone Deft,

That's not at all what this is about. You were quick to point out that I was a squeaky toy, but you have no idea what we are talking about.

I'm suggesting that the midi track include the ability to record 1-16 midi channels and retain that information so that the MIDI output sends the individual MIDI channel notes from one track.

In other words, the MIDI notes that are recorded (i.e. MIDI channel 1 transmitted from the keyboard or MIDI channel 3 from the keyboard stay with the note that is recorded and are sent out via the MIDI outputs to the same MIDI channel on the MIDI cable that is connected to an external MIDI keyboard/sampler/whatever) In this way, you can use an external Multitimbral keyboard (i.e. KORG OASYS or a Multitimbral Sampler) and get all the MIDI channels available from ONE track in live.

Why is this important?

1. It is impossible me to use Live for realtime Sound Effects production work, because I have massive sound effects libraries which have been built for years into Samplers. It would take years to put these into Live's Sampler and they wouldn't sound the same.

2. You can see how the notes line up next to each other.

3. Saves space in your live tracks (one midi sampler with normal 16 channels of midi is 16 seperate tracks in Live with the status quo)

This has nothing to do with a MIDI track with audio out. (i.e. VST instrument)

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Post by abledude » Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:00 pm

I don't want 'help' from users. I want Ableton to add this feature to Live. It's not a big deal for them, it's just one variable added to their midi recording. In the beginning of Live, they didn't have Delay Compensation, so every midi note had to be put through as fast as possible. Now that the program has evolved, this would be an easy fix for them.

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Post by paradiddle » Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:08 pm

Does it work if you use a separate track in live for each midi channels (like you mentioned in your last post)?

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Post by abledude » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:21 pm

yes

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Post by adventurepants_ » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:50 pm

forgive my ignorance, but why dont you just use one of the pieces of software that youve listed, that do what you want? It doesnt really seem like a feature that fits in with Lives main concept, ie Live performance.

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Post by abledude » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:41 pm

I'm not giving up on Live, we all know it's an 'awesome' program. I use the other programs. They all suck in their own way.

Ableton should add 'Multitimbral Support' for single tracks. What a great feature that would be.

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MIDI notes do not include the information on the channel...

Post by abledude » Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:10 pm

The problem is, that MIDI notes do not include the information on which
channel they have been sent.
If they would, it would be easy.

The MIDI channel routing can only be done on a track basis.

The MIDI channel routing can only be done on a track basis.

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