sampling with records

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hitechsoul15
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sampling with records

Post by hitechsoul15 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:51 am

I am not interested in using the samples or loops that come with Live. Would it be a hassle to create my own loops sampling from vinyl with Live? Also, can I chop up the sample within live, or do i need to do that before hand in another program? Since I am leaning towards creating music mainly with just samples, i was thinking of getting a MPC instead, if Live can give me the simplicity and convience, then ill get it.

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Post by v00d00ppl » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:03 am

if you have download audacity for free you can chop each individual sound and then use it in impulse/simpler/sampler. now if you have sampler you can truncate each sample and assign it to a midi note (.i.e mpc style) there is the option to layer with the help of instrument racks.

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Post by EgAD » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:48 am

go to the front page of the site and look at the live slicing and drumrack video.
it is exactly what you're looking for, Live 7 is in betA RIGHT NOW so it will be
released very shortly, if you buy Live right now you will get the upgrade for free to Live 7 and will be in business.

nobody buys Live for the loops that come with it.....


that said. If i was you I would get the mpc anyway and use them both you will have an extremely potent combination on your hands.

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Post by paradiddle » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:11 am

you can chop your loops from live without using an external editor but you also have the possibility to use an external editor like someone mentioned.

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Post by adventurepants_ » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:14 am

its also pretty easy to chop samples in arrange view, then drag the section you want into a Session clip, or onto an Impulse pad, and then crop it.

If you were going to be a doing a big batch of samples, and just topping and tailing, then it would be quicker in an external editor. +1 for Audacity, and Wavosaur aint bad either for free.

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Post by paradiddle » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:22 am

That's how I do it. I remove the grid also. Or I'll just cut if fast and use the crop function in the sample view.

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Post by adventurepants_ » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:30 am

the secret bonus of the crop is that if you rename a clip, and then crop it, the wav appears in the samples/processed/crop folder, with the filename that you gave the clip. If you dont crop it, you never end up with a wav of that filename unless you manually rename it.

always struck me as a little odd.

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Post by paradiddle » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:59 am

I think it's probably because crop is actually destructive editing and creates a new sample has oppose to split or consolidate. Not sure.

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Post by Diamond Mode » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:29 am

there's no need for an mpc if you've got Ableton..

look at Just Blaze..he's completlely ditched the MPC for ableton..

certain aspects of the mpc cannot be beaten, but there is alot more control over the sampled material with ableton (or any DAW)..

get a good clean signal from your record deck, into your soundcard, and take it from there...

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