So what's the limitations of educational discounts?

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:55 pm

adobe edu products cannot be updated nor used for commercial work.

ryanlee127 · Post by **ryanlee127** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:06 pm

you cannot commercially relese tunes made with An academic license.

evernaut · Post by **evernaut** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:25 pm

ryanlee127 wrote:you cannot commercially relese tunes made with An academic license.

I don't think that's correct. But, in any case, how the hell would anyone know unless you made a point of saying exactly how you'd made your work?

dazzer · Post by **dazzer** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:28 am

Rogue Scrunt wrote:you may be right
here is a thread w/ more info

http://www.bigbluelounge.com/forums/vie ... c+academic

Yep, same sorts of threads were on SOS forum tho I've not got the time to search for them now

tylenol · Post by **tylenol** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:02 am

Rogue Scrunt wrote:
dazzer wrote:Careful not to confuse Ableton's EDU policy with Apple's.

You can't upgrade the Edu version of Logic 7 to 8 and I guess it'll be the same with Logic 8 to whatever comes next in 5 year's time.

I don't believe this statement to be true,

can you provide documentation?

I don't have any links handy, but I can attest to seeing this on the side of logic edu boxes in university stores. (And seeing lots of forum discussions when logic 8 came out where people suddenly realized this restriction.)

stonee · Post by **stonee** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:10 am

when i enquired to ableton if there was any limitations they told me there were none, and then put a smily face after it.

so that solves that debate.

ciw · Post by **ciw** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:34 am

Cloak and Dagger wrote:before I purchased my academic license I asked if I could use it professionally and the answer was: yes

You can use your educational license for producing commercial music.

Interesting. Nice to know, actually. I wonder why they slap the 'educational use only' stickers on the educational boxes though? They certainly don't inform you that you can't release commercial tunes with an educational version before you buy.

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:14 pm

Good thing I don't write commercial music.

I wouldn't put it past Apple to somehow encode something that lets them know your track was produced using an educational version of Logic but I don't see how other companies like NI could implement that for a single instrument. Although they have done a bang up job of making sure you can't use their full versions by crashing Live every time you open a set.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:50 pm

evernaut wrote:
b0unce wrote:it aint worth the hassle for a measly 10% discount, get the full license.
It's a lot more than 10%.

Live 6 retails at about 275 quid in the UK. Edu discount is about a hundred pounds cheaper. Well worth it.

I'm not sure it applies to upgrades though, but there's always some tasty options with the Abes.

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beats me wrote:I have a family member who is a teacher and therefore can get me whatever with the educational discount. Let's pretend that software is Logic. So what are the limitations? I think I remember people saying no updates or upgrades? I can understand no deals on major upgrades, but for updates?? That fix known problems? What's the dealio??

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apple only offer 10% edu discount on Logic. , which amounts to about $50

ciw · Post by **ciw** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:56 pm

If you didn't want us to hijack the thread (on the ableton forum) by discussing live, maybe the title should have included the word 'logic'. hth. hand.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:59 pm

who cares where the forum is. Read the question before answering it or correcting those who answer it

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:16 pm

I'm talking about Logic but it was more of a blanket question so that we could maybe find out what other company's policies are. I won't attempt the edu discount with Live because I mostly use that and I want to support the Abes. Apple on the otherhand I feel has already taken enough of my money so I wanted to look at that option.