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Post by sweetjesus » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:45 am

husker wrote:definitely Andromeda - and the signal path is ALL analog, despite what some may say
the signal path is analogue if you bypass the effects.

the oscillators are analogue but the rest is digital (LFO's, Envelopes ETC).

sold my andromeda, got a voyager rackmount and could not be happier :)

edit: i prefer my 3 moog oscillators to the 164 + in the A6..

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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:48 am

sweetjesus wrote:
husker wrote:definitely Andromeda - and the signal path is ALL analog, despite what some may say
the signal path is analogue if you bypass the effects.
.
analogue or analog?
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by Angstrom » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:04 am

Analogue is the Euro spelling, ( well it's certainly English)

Analog is the US spelling. SJ is going global it seems

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Post by cabletone » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:31 am

POly's
Dave smith Poly Evolver
Prophet 08
Jupiter 6

Monos
Voyager
Korg ms20
sh101
mono evolver keyboard

digitals:
nord lead2
microwave xt

oh and studio electronics se-1x (mono)

those are my picks. it really depend on what kind of sound you're going for.

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Post by sweetjesus » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:37 am

Angstrom wrote:Analogue is the Euro spelling, ( well it's certainly English)

Analog is the US spelling. SJ is going global it seems
i bought a tshirt with the bloody yankee spelling..

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Post by Khazul » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:16 am

Virus TI
Nothing to see here - move along!

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Post by Khazul » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:18 am

sweetjesus wrote:
husker wrote:definitely Andromeda - and the signal path is ALL analog, despite what some may say
the signal path is analogue if you bypass the effects.
Thought the signal parth was all analog, even with fx - the digital fx areetc are sends, not inserts I think.
Nothing to see here - move along!

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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:22 am

Angstrom wrote:Analogue is the Euro spelling, ( well it's certainly English)

Analog is the US spelling. SJ is going global it seems
oh interesting, I always thought analogue was the spelling used when refering to a virtual synth or analog modeling type synth like a nord.
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by rsagevik » Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:38 am

Angstrom wrote:Analogue is the Euro spelling, ( well it's certainly English)

Analog is the US spelling. SJ is going global it seems
indeed :)

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Post by funky shit » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:32 pm

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Post by Angstrom » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:53 pm

Johnisfaster wrote:
Angstrom wrote:Analogue is the Euro spelling, ( well it's certainly English)

Analog is the US spelling. SJ is going global it seems
oh interesting, I always thought analogue was the spelling used when refering to a virtual synth or analog modeling type synth like a nord.
I think it's just common because of the huge amount of software companies in the Eurozone. Historically there were of course hardware companies but they didn't write have to write 'analogue' on their synths (in the 1970's) because it would be equivalent to writing "car" on your car. It was sort of implied at the time that it was analogue :)

Only now is Analogue something you want to put on an interface so it can lie to you. Analogue software ! :D

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Post by aqua_tek » Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:54 am

I'm sort of interested on what people have to say about this.

Although I'm not looking for a hardware synth RIGHT THIS INSTANT, eventually I would like to.

I have a friend who keeps trying to get me sold on Moogs ( :P ) but I keep telling him, as long as they stay monophonic, I think I'll stay away. NEED MY CHORDS!

Hardware synths that have my attention:
DSI Poly Evolver
Clavia Nord Lead series... and maybe the Nord Wave.
Alesis Andromeda
Korg Radias (go ahead, laugh... but I heard it being played at a show last weekend and it sounded fucking hot!)
and of course the Virus TI line

I guess its a subjective thing too. Some people like the sound of a certain synth, while others dont.

So... testify people! I'm especially interested in getting some opinions of the TI, the Nords, and the Poly Evolver.

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Post by Angstrom » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:31 am

I don't think one synth is the way to go at all.
Two synths is the minimum.

Some synths are good at pads and atmospheres while others are good at lead noises (and/or bass). Jack of all trades is master of none.

I'm assuming you aren't actually buying one synth to do everything, but you want a favourite off everyone?

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Post by scientist » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:13 am

i'll chime in since i've done a lot of research recently, so this is all first hand experience...

analog mono synths:
moog voyager - great interface, great sound. i went with the rack version because i don't need aftertouch or the xy pad.
studio electronics se-1x - this is essentially a minimoog clone so is very similar to the voyager. they sound great and i would've gone with this if i didn't end up with the voyager for cheap.
dave smith evolver - not too crazy about the interface. imo even the keyboard version is ugly. interface may not seem that important, but when you have to stare at something for hours and hours...get something you want to be with a lot.

analog poly:
sci six trak - horrible interface but decent sound.
sci prophet 600 - similar sound to the six trak but thankfully a decent interface.
sci prophet t8 - great interface, great sound, but these are crazy rare and worth a ton. i assume the 08 would be the modern equivalent.
roland juno 60 - to me juno's are very distinct in tone, and despite being poly just don't seem that versatile.

virtual analog:
virus b - didn't get along with the sound to well. plus having a 3 oscillator synth with direct access to only the first 2 makes no sense to me.
nord modular - fun for the modular-ness, but could never get a sound i liked. too sterile.
roland jp8080 - great interface...my favorite of the bunch. the sound is quirky...dirty in a somewhat digital sort of way so for 'real' analog sound imo it isn't that great.
alesis ion - this is on its way to me in the mail. the most convincingly analog of all the virtuals, with tons of versatility. lots of different modeled filters (moog, oberheim, etc).

yep, that's a lot of synths. the overall winner for me is the voyager, and with the jp8080 and the ion side by side my guess is i'll be able to ditch one or the other depending on which i like best for poly sounds.

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Post by aqua_tek » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:21 am

scientist wrote:i'll chime in since i've done a lot of research recently, so this is all first hand experience...

analog mono synths:
moog voyager - great interface, great sound. i went with the rack version because i don't need aftertouch or the xy pad.
studio electronics se-1x - this is essentially a minimoog clone so is very similar to the voyager. they sound great and i would've gone with this if i didn't end up with the voyager for cheap.
dave smith evolver - not too crazy about the interface. imo even the keyboard version is ugly. interface may not seem that important, but when you have to stare at something for hours and hours...get something you want to be with a lot.

analog poly:
sci six trak - horrible interface but decent sound.
sci prophet 600 - similar sound to the six trak but thankfully a decent interface.
sci prophet t8 - great interface, great sound, but these are crazy rare and worth a ton. i assume the 08 would be the modern equivalent.
roland juno 60 - to me juno's are very distinct in tone, and despite being poly just don't seem that versatile.

virtual analog:
virus b - didn't get along with the sound to well. plus having a 3 oscillator synth with direct access to only the first 2 makes no sense to me.
nord modular - fun for the modular-ness, but could never get a sound i liked. too sterile.
roland jp8080 - great interface...my favorite of the bunch. the sound is quirky...dirty in a somewhat digital sort of way so for 'real' analog sound imo it isn't that great.
alesis ion - this is on its way to me in the mail. the most convincingly analog of all the virtuals, with tons of versatility. lots of different modeled filters (moog, oberheim, etc).

yep, that's a lot of synths. the overall winner for me is the voyager, and with the jp8080 and the ion side by side my guess is i'll be able to ditch one or the other depending on which i like best for poly sounds.
well in my case i'm not looking for THE ONE synth to be a jack of all trades. Just a nice analog synth for...well... some nice analog leads, basses, pads, etc. For more essoteric stuff I'd stick with my soft synths like Absynth and Zebra.

I could very well get along with Absynth and Zebra alone, as I've done for a while now. But, you know, there comes a time in one's life when one just WANTS to have an actual hardware keyboard to just fuck around with without having to turn on his computer. At least, that's why i'm so fixated on getting a hard synth pronto. :oops:

Interesting about the ION, i totally forgot to mention it, yet i would LOVE to try it out sometime. Is it essentially a scaled down Andromeda? The interface looks nice and tweakable, and now that you say the sound is convincing as well, you have totally sparked my curiosity

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