Demonoid is dead forever, should former members worry?

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Slightly offtopic... did anyone ever read that blog a few years back about a local studio engineer and his hatred of a band that had signed to a major? He called the drummer "Cotton" or something. That was enlightening reading.

I have to confess I know sod all about the industry side of things.

[popslut]

Slightly offtopic... did anyone ever read that blog a few years back about a local studio engineer and his hatred of a band that had signed to a major?

The Mixerman Diaries...

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Slightly offtopic... did anyone ever read that blog a few years back about a local studio engineer and his hatred of a band that had signed to a major?

The Mixerman Diaries...

THATS the one!!

[Meef Chaloin]

i never understood why anyone would sign up with a torrent site in the first place, there's plenty where you dont need to give any details

[rbmonosylabik]

Slightly offtopic... did anyone ever read that blog a few years back about a local studio engineer and his hatred of a band that had signed to a major?

The Mixerman Diaries...

Alsihad (pronounced AL· see· hod) is my own personal name for what is currently the most widely used computer program for recording in the industry. I created my own name for the platform, partially because I don’t think the real name fits the product, and partially because I wouldn’t want to be responsible for even one sale of this product.

HAHA, I'm so stealing that.

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It's not the Riaa that downed demonoid, it's the cria ( the canadian version).

The demonoid tracker was hosted in a town named laval near Montreal. There is no bust around this story afaik, just an isp cutting the services so the users data are safe.

Imo, the oink.cd bust 2 or 3 weeks was pretty heavier, Interpol now have a big users list but also a big list of who release what. This is way more dangerous for the guy who popped up and album 4 weeks in advance on the tracker.

Anyway, there is always new trackers popping to replace the dead ones.Now this time, they will be hosted in a country were there is no organism like that.

[BLynx]

Alsihad (pronounced AL· see· hod) is my own personal name for what is currently the most widely used computer program for recording in the industry. I created my own name for the platform, partially because I don’t think the real name fits the product, and partially because I wouldn’t want to be responsible for even one sale of this product.

HAHA, I'm so stealing that.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=alsihad

[SimonPHC]

people are paying more than ever to see live music though, and recorded music almost acts as a very big, effective widely distributed flyer

I agree on this point, because I've been there, abroad, you know?

But most releases (compared to how many vinyls I've released) I've got are on compilations of big name Ibiza djs. My tracks don't matter shit on those, the guy who mixed it all together matters. My personal musical views don't matter either, they just use what fits their agenda (which is fine by me).

But in the end, your statement I agreed upon seems a bit twisted. People should book me for what I do and for what they know to expect of me. However, their perception of what I do is twisted because of big name djs and how they use my tunes in a different context.

My Globally Distributed Flyer, as you called it, is interpreted wrongly, because the people who listen to and book people because of those compilations don't have a clue.

What is the future of the DJ MIX as a format in this changing world? And how do producers cope with that?

[Johnisfaster]

Alsihad (pronounced AL· see· hod) is my own personal name for what is currently the most widely used computer program for recording in the industry. I created my own name for the platform, partially because I don’t think the real name fits the product, and partially because I wouldn’t want to be responsible for even one sale of this product.

HAHA, I'm so stealing that.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=alsihad

according to the urban dictionary it looks like it's actually pronounced "alls I had" as in "I gave it alls I had"

[forge]

people are paying more than ever to see live music though, and recorded music almost acts as a very big, effective widely distributed flyer

I agree on this point, because I've been there, abroad, you know?

But most releases (compared to how many vinyls I've released) I've got are on compilations of big name Ibiza djs. My tracks don't matter shit on those, the guy who mixed it all together matters. My personal musical views don't matter either, they just use what fits their agenda (which is fine by me).

But in the end, your statement I agreed upon seems a bit twisted. People should book me for what I do and for what they know to expect of me. However, their perception of what I do is twisted because of big name djs and how they use my tunes in a different context.

My Globally Distributed Flyer, as you called it, is interpreted wrongly, because the people who listen to and book people because of those compilations don't have a clue.

What is the future of the DJ MIX as a format in this changing world? And how do producers cope with that?

isnt that your chance to "educate" them?

or are you saying they dont book you again because you weren't what they expected?

I think it's good to have your own unique position - but if it also fits into someone else's bag that you wouldnt expect then great!

a few years back I went to the MInistry of sound (only time I've been) just because I new the DJ was going to play it and it was weird at 5am looking around seeing the place full of gurning Aussie, Kiwi and South African backpackers all dancing to what could have been a washing machine for all they knew

but the buzz of hearing it at such a famous club was worth the pain of the Misery of sound

[leedsquietman]

I read that Radiohead had only had 8% of downloads taken for free (significantly different to 80 and 50%) and less than 15% were taken free or for less than 3 dollars. I also read that they had amassed over 12 million dollars already from album sales, with something like 85% of that going straight back to the group and non to a record label.

They had hundreds of people who had paid 20 US Dollars for the album, supposedly to demonstrate their loyalty as fans to the group , which helps negate the freeloaders somewhat. Seems crazy to me to pay 20 bucks for an album of 160 Kbps mp3 but what do I know?


HA HA !! That should piss the RIAA and co right off !!!

[forge]

I read that Radiohead had only had 8% of downloads taken for free (significantly different to 80 and 50%) and less than 15% were taken free or for less than 3 dollars. I also read that they had amassed over 12 million dollars already from album sales, with something like 85% of that going straight back to the group and non to a record label.

They had hundreds of people who had paid 20 US Dollars for the album, supposedly to demonstrate their loyalty as fans to the group , which helps negate the freeloaders somewhat. Seems crazy to me to pay 20 bucks for an album of 160 Kbps mp3 but what do I know?


HA HA !! That should piss the RIAA and co right off !!!

Yeah I think this "new music industry" we are seeing developing now will operate a lot on the honour system - like donationware

I think as it gets around more and more to a situation where music comes directly from the artist it will have that effect - you just naturally feel more inclined to want to reward someone for their efforts if they are someone you respect and can relate to and have direct contact with

[wilxon]

...thing is - you get to keep all of the revenue from that 10,000...

50% actually.

I release through a label run by two friends whom I've known for many years. We've never signed a contract and all negotiations are completed in three line emails. They account to me when I remind them and everything works very smoothly.

I wouldn't touch a major with two bargepoles tied together, having spent 20-odd years working for various of them as a freelance producer/engineer and seeing up close just how foul and disgusting they are.

In 1998 I signed to Island records as one third of a pop act, with a me providing electronics, beats synths etc, a guitar player and an ex-catwalk model as the singer.

We signed the contract on the Tuesday, got our advance cheques on the Thursday and then me and the guitarist were told we were fired on the following Monday.

All along they were only interested in the singer, who they saw as a kind of potential Britney Spears-type pop bimbo, but who saw herself as a kind of PJ Harvey type tortured artist, and they were willing to lie and deceive AND spunk £40,000 in order to get her signature on a contract.

She ended up doing a runner to New York with a dancer and relapsed back into her smack habit from the trauma of it all.

But I digress...

There are so many reasons why, in 2007, everyone should avoid major labels like the plague and, even though I have a great relationship with the label I'm on, I can honestly see myself eventually deciding to keep all 100% of my sales revenue and marketing my own music via a website in a similar way to what Radiohead just did.

For all those who have never read it, here is everything you need to know about major label deals.

This is still the case nowadys too. I am good friends with a band who have been signed and drpped by 3 major labels - all after the same thing.

The band sign up and then the rocord company issues some money and then try to sack the members of the band apart from the singer who they want to go solo.

Needless to say they keep giving back the money & tearing up the contract and changing the band name.

[popslut]

Needless to say they keep giving back the money...

This is where they are going wrong in my opinion.

[wilxon]

Needless to say they keep giving back the money...

This is where they are going wrong in my opinion.

Thats what i said, Fuckem,


But they wanted out of the contract, part of that was to pay back the money.