Hard Decision

rmoat · Post by **rmoat** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:43 pm

Hi,

I am trying to decide whether I should get Live 4 for $249 or Fruity Loops Producer for $79. What do all of you think?

Sincerely,
Ryan

mrruby · Post by **mrruby** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:54 pm

Both! if you can afford it. I use FL to create loops to play in Live. It is a system that has served me well.( at least w/ Live3) ,,,of course now with Live4 I will probably be going less and less to Fruity...So the answer is definitely go with Live4...

--But if you can swing both they do work well together Live-wired into fruity( is the other way around possible?- I suppose so?)...cheers!

rmoat · Post by **rmoat** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:02 pm

Hi,

Thanks for replying. I probably will buy Fruity first, and then hopefully if I can get a job then I will be able to upgrade to Ableton Live 4. I'm very limited just because of college tuition, books, and everything.

I just can't wait till the day I can use Live 4. hehe

Ryan

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:11 pm

compose: fruity
rock the house: live4

btw, the outstanding "formula controller" of fruity should be a live-plugin.
it is awesome and worth to be remixed under the "ableton"-label...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:25 pm

i have to dis agree bigtime, I have fruity and love it, but Live is the one you should get first, you can do what fruity can do and more but fruity cannot do a 10th of what live 4 can do.
you are on a very tight budget search the forum there are alot of us fruity users here as well as other apps Live covers them all very well while offering things that they don't. take audio recording for example, you will kill yourself before your happy with the way fruity has implemented audio recording. fruity is a great beat machine, great for vstis/dxis, but live can do all of that with the exception of dxis but all you need is a wrapper for that wich there are free, trust me trust me trust me please trust me, get Live 4 first, then go to kvr.com and get a shitload of incredible sounding FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE VSTIS AND VST FX and load them up into Live and you will be in heaven while you wait to get a job save the 79bucks and then get fruity. you might not even still want it cause in all honesty you won't need it, but still I'd get it cause its a different interface and way of doing things, but Live is the first program you should get no matter who you are, you will be in business from songwriting to song performing to remixing .....no matter if you play rock and roll, hiphop, techno, house , reagge or gospel or farting whatever damn it man listen to me

loophead · Post by **loophead** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:46 pm

Ryan, If funds are tight, you want to make as best a decision as possible ! Dont buy fruity !

Get Live 4 !

Hands down there is no comparison. You will be throwing away half of the upgrade cost and you are halfway there ! Dont do it man

you deserve better

Vercengetorex · Post by **Vercengetorex** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:32 am

I am sorry my friend, but I dont see this as a hard decision at all.

Either buy an application capable of doing more for the realtime composition and manipulation of MIDI and audio than any other on the market.....

Or buy an overbloated drummachine.....

The choice is simple, and Ableton Live is the ONLY choice for true realtime production.

Moonburnt · Post by **Moonburnt** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:38 am

yep but realtime production isn't the be-all and end-all, as awesome as it may be!

There are lotsa things that fruity is amazing for, so I'm about as fanatical about that app as I am about live. IMHO I don't think of it as an overblown drum machine, more like a 'fully-featured' drum machine perhaps? Though the value of FL's deluxe version is a bit questionable, because the extra features in that one are really things that u could do in Live or a DAW with more control.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:45 am

Meh.. Fruity does nothing that Live doesn't. I think overbloated drum-machine is a little harsh, but Flstudio is certainly nothing innovative.

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:59 am

look this bloody amateur working with this overbloated drum-machine
on an overbloated plasma-screen.

btw, the name of the fool is Mike Oldfield.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:03 pm

Amberience wrote:Meh.. Fruity does nothing that Live doesn't.

So how does Live provide internal controllers (not only lfo's)? Haven't found out yet (besides manipulating clip-envelopes by hand).