Composing on headphones - 'phones recommendations

[Macrostructure]

I've a pair of Beyerdynamic DT770s but they are a bit bright in the mids, which they are supposed to be as they are a vocal monitoring can. I'd like to sell them and get something more suited to mixing/mastering for long listening periods. I'm fully aware of the limitations of doing this on headphones but noise restrictions limit the amount of time I can work from monitors.

Does anyone have any recommendations? Up to £200ukp

[kodomo]

I think you should go and try the AKG k240 and k271
they re quite flat in response, the 240 is semi-open so it would hurt your ears less with long working hours.

http://www.akg.com/personal/powerslave, ... ge,EN.html

[thumperjack]

[tjwett]

i have the Sennys as well, been pretty happy with them.

[SubFunk]

+ 1 for tracking / composing

just never ever mix on cans!

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I think you should go and try the AKG k240 and k271
they re quite flat in response, the 240 is semi-open so it would hurt your ears less with long working hours.

+1 for the 240

[Macrostructure]

This is a great resource for this kind of thing:

http://www.headphone.com/technical/prod ... d-a-graph/

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[SubFunk]

This is a great resource for this kind of thing:

http://www.headphone.com/technical/prod ... d-a-graph/

i personally think it is utter bullshit to choose after pure technical data, jump in a shop and LISTEN , also very, very, very important consider the wearing comfort for long sessions, especially with cans, they can smash your head and leave you with an evil headache...!!!

apart, no matter how flat they might be, mixing on cans is a 100% no go! so you will end up mixing and tweaking the track[s] sonically all over again anyway.

cans are for tracking, writing, dj-ing and general listening... nothing else.

not for sonic manipulation or mixing... NEVER, if you do so, you will shoot into your own foot!

[Macrostructure]

This is a great resource for this kind of thing:

http://www.headphone.com/technical/prod ... d-a-graph/

i personally think it is utter bullshit to choose after pure technical data, jump in a shop and LISTEN , also very, very, very important consider the wearing comfort for long sessions, especially with cans, they can smash your head and leave you with an evil headache...!!!

apart, no matter how flat they might be, mixing on cans is a 100% no go! so you will end up mixing and tweaking the track[s] sonically all over again anyway.

cans are for tracking, writing, dj-ing and general listening... nothing else.

not for sonic manipulation or mixing... NEVER, if you do so, you will shoot into your own foot!

Thanks but if you go back to my original post you will see why I ask this question of the forum, and that I am quite aware of the limitations and dangers of mixing on cans.

I have never said that I will be choosing after simply reviewing technical data, just that that particular website is a great resource.

Furthermore, it is not always possible to compare all the headphones you might like to try in one city never mind one shop, so eliminating several by comparing specs is useful in many ways.

Finally I would point out that while you might not like my music you would be unlikely to say that it was either badly mixed or produced. In fact it was all done with A/B listening on Beyerdynamic DT770s and old model Tannoy Active Reveals. The limitations of this method of working are known and are set out in my original post and are what I am trying to get away from.

Please READ, and I will of course LISTEN.

[SubFunk]

This is a great resource for this kind of thing:

http://www.headphone.com/technical/prod ... d-a-graph/

i personally think it is utter bullshit to choose after pure technical data, jump in a shop and LISTEN , also very, very, very important consider the wearing comfort for long sessions, especially with cans, they can smash your head and leave you with an evil headache...!!!

apart, no matter how flat they might be, mixing on cans is a 100% no go! so you will end up mixing and tweaking the track[s] sonically all over again anyway.

cans are for tracking, writing, dj-ing and general listening... nothing else.

not for sonic manipulation or mixing... NEVER, if you do so, you will shoot into your own foot!

Thanks but if you go back to my original post you will see why I ask this question of the forum, and that I am quite aware of the limitations and dangers of mixing on cans.

I have never said that I will be choosing after simply reviewing technical data, just that that particular website is a great resource.

Furthermore, it is not always possible to compare all the headphones you might like to try in one city never mind one shop, so eliminating several by comparing specs is useful in many ways.

Finally I would point out that while you might not like my music you would be unlikely to say that it was either badly mixed or produced. In fact it was all done with A/B listening on Beyerdynamic DT770s and old model Tannoy Active Reveals. The limitations of this method of working are known and are set out in my original post and are what I am trying to get away from.

Please READ, and I will of course LISTEN.

ok, i missunderstood you!

peace.

[Macrostructure]

i personally think it is utter bullshit to choose after pure technical data, jump in a shop and LISTEN , also very, very, very important consider the wearing comfort for long sessions, especially with cans, they can smash your head and leave you with an evil headache...!!!

apart, no matter how flat they might be, mixing on cans is a 100% no go! so you will end up mixing and tweaking the track[s] sonically all over again anyway.

cans are for tracking, writing, dj-ing and general listening... nothing else.

not for sonic manipulation or mixing... NEVER, if you do so, you will shoot into your own foot!

Thanks but if you go back to my original post you will see why I ask this question of the forum, and that I am quite aware of the limitations and dangers of mixing on cans.

I have never said that I will be choosing after simply reviewing technical data, just that that particular website is a great resource.

Furthermore, it is not always possible to compare all the headphones you might like to try in one city never mind one shop, so eliminating several by comparing specs is useful in many ways.

Finally I would point out that while you might not like my music you would be unlikely to say that it was either badly mixed or produced. In fact it was all done with A/B listening on Beyerdynamic DT770s and old model Tannoy Active Reveals. The limitations of this method of working are known and are set out in my original post and are what I am trying to get away from.

Please READ, and I will of course LISTEN.

ok, i missunderstood you!

peace.

[Daim]

there's a new akg headphone, i think it's the sequel of the K271.

but it's not shown on the website yet.

check elevator mailorder..

[Daim]

this one:

http://www.headphone.com/guide/by-appli ... -k-701.php

[rikhyray]

Beyers are mostly a bit tiring if used for long time, Sennheisers 600 or 650 or new AKG, difficult choice, should listen before you buy though on other hand both are so great that you cant go wrong with 650 or 701
No need to get hysterical about using cans, as it is mostly on all audio forum, it is as worn, boring as mac vs pc.
A friend of mine uses HD 650 for 99% of the time, and using different Sennhs this way for past 40 years. He has monitors,in fact he can get any gear free anyway, but he likes to work with cans. It didn't prevent him from being one of the world most respected and successful musicians.
I dont think it is ideal, definitely un healthy ( and I told him so) but if you know what you want and what you doing to anything can work.

[downfader]

I know you lot will scorn at this but I've used my Beyer DT100s for years to mix on, never had any complaints and I think I know them well enough to counter any negativities about cans.

I used to have a brilliant pair of Seinnys about 5 years back, only a consumer model that cost me 40 quid but they were really clear sounding and comfortable.