Live 7 audio engine

Scube · Post by **Scube** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:14 pm

The new audio engine is extremely better than the previous.. What did they do?? I think it's not for the 64bit method only..

Great work AbleTeam!!

Scube

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:47 pm

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nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:55 pm

damn double post

exper · Post by **exper** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:55 pm

No, I'm sorry. No placebo here. I can definitely hear the difference in my mixes. Clarity is like, 200% better.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:57 pm

^ yeah, we did the tests in the beta, and I heard the difference right away. I was just being sarcastical.

Caymus Cab · Post by **Caymus Cab** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:58 pm

any difference in CPU usage?

blank · Post by **blank** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:05 pm

Caymus Cab wrote:any difference in CPU usage?

on my quad from 6 to 7 there is a difference of approx 1% at 44100 playback rate so no big deal here.

The disk usage on the other hand look a bit more demanding, i have a couple of sets where I need to dump more audio clip or sampler patches in ram.

The new audio engine is excellent imo.

The new compressor is a total beast.

Reversoulmusic · Post by **Reversoulmusic** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:11 pm

Live 7 audio engine is no doubt top notch I heard it straight away..... thanks guys for such awesome product Apple & Stein eat your heart out

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:59 pm

Steinberg also updated to 64-bit though (for free) and Logic uses 64-bit where it helps (likely the way Live does it now), which doesn't mean I talk against the good audio-engine of Ableton Live.

Most likely I will be using Live for writing and live playing and at one point buy something like Cubase or Logic (I don't like being bound to Mac though) for arrangement, mix, combing and complex Midi editing.

LJN · Post by **LJN** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:07 pm

So, after all, all those people that raised questions regarding Live's sound quality prior to L7 didn't have mud in their ears?

Timur · Post by **Timur** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:12 pm

There is no huge considerable change in the summing engine. It has a higher precision whenever two or more signals are summed up, yes, but the audio-processing stays 32-bit. What makes a huge difference between Live 6 and 7 is the higher quality of the inbuild effects, which in turn also benefit from the higher precision of the summing engine to carry over that higher quality.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:20 pm

LJN wrote:So, after all, all those people that raised questions regarding Live's sound quality prior to L7 didn't have mud in their ears?

it's not that they didn't have mud in their ears it's that ALL of them had nothing relevant to say other than amateurish vague descriptions of bullshit. kids with DAWs and an internet connection. if you want to make a claim like that there are ways to put it into black and white terms, ALL of those people were/are clueless. read some radib posts on the matter, the guy's hilarious.

it's an obvious claim to make on a DAW forum "dude, this sounds like shit", but how you report it, it should be reproducable and measurable.

Scube · Post by **Scube** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:05 pm

Timur wrote:There is no huge considerable change in the summing engine. It has a higher precision whenever two or more signals are summed up, yes, but the audio-processing stays 32-bit. What makes a huge difference between Live 6 and 7 is the higher quality of the inbuild effects, which in turn also benefit from the higher precision of the summing engine to carry over that higher quality.

I'm speaking of the imported audio files, without effects. They sounds more and more clear in the high spectrum.

Enhanced granular synthesis + 64 bit precision = A great update

Scube

Scube · Post by **Scube** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:11 pm

nebulae wrote:

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Are you suggest me that I'm easly influenced? I'd like to think that you have a low-fi system...if not, I could lend you my hears..

Scube

Abzurd · Post by **Abzurd** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:00 am

Got my L7 update @ 11:00pm Thursday. Did my 1st recording with it tonight @ 7:30 with a vocalist I had never worked with before.

She comes from a family of musicians, rec engineers, and been in the game professionally since 12 (she's in her early 30's now).

She said that our session was the quickest, smoothest recording she's ever had and was completely blown away at how great Live sounded.

She kept asking again & again what I was using.

I've worked with Live since v1.0 and it's never sounded better, been easier for folks with a traditional music background or folks who create hip hop or sample based music to create remarkable work with.

With this release Ableton has created a program which unites all forms of music creation for all styles of music.

Just my opinion.