HELP! I just can't fix latency issues w/ my Digi002rack/Live

Laura_Live · Post by **Laura_Live** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:47 pm

Hello,

whatever I do I just can"t fix the latency issues with my Digi 002 rack. The recorded audio is not aligned with the grid.
I have to drag it in Place.

Live recognize the latency of my device properly though. I checked it with the "latency lesson".

What shall I do?

PLEASE HELP

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:56 pm

can you give a little more information about how and what youre recording? will help to narrow it down a little.

do you mean that you have a little silence at the start of the track instead of the recording starting on the first beat?

donnydonny · Post by **donnydonny** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:47 am

What is your buffer size set to?

Laura_Live · Post by **Laura_Live** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:00 pm

adventurepants_ wrote:can you give a little more information about how and what youre recording? will help to narrow it down a little.

do you mean that you have a little silence at the start of the track instead of the recording starting on the first beat?

Yes, exactly. I'm controlling midi synths over Ableton's sequencer and record their audio output in Live. It's not aligned with the midi notes, never on the one, but the monitor playback (before recording) is latency free when I set the midi Track delay to '-28.8 ms"

donnydonny wrote:What is your buffer size set to?

256

What might be the issue? Help much appreciated!!!!!! Thank, this forum is very helpful!

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:53 pm

are you monitoring the audio through live? or are you monitoring thu an external mixer?

Laura_Live · Post by **Laura_Live** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:14 pm

mike holiday wrote:are you monitoring the audio through live? or are you monitoring thu an external mixer?

Through Live. My setup is as follows:

Live 6.0.10 trough Digi 002 Rack controlling Midi synths and recording them via the audio inputs at the buffer size 256

Monitoring the synths through live is no problem when I set the track delay of the midi track to -28.8

However, midi notes that should be on the one, aren't one the one, infact the whole recorded stream has to be moved to be right.

Shouldn't Ableton move my recorded stream automatically in place??

I'm not an Xpert!!!!!

blank · Post by **blank** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:16 pm

I always encounter latency problem with digidesign hardware using asio drivers.

Dunno for 002 rack but for m-box I always get like 40 ms.

I was never able to record properly in ableton using digi hardware, if you find the ultimate solution please let me know.

-B

Laura_Live · Post by **Laura_Live** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:32 pm

No new help or insights or comments?

(((((

With Protools, my recorded audio is always aligned with the according midi notes

blank · Post by **blank** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:10 pm

Laura_Live wrote: With Protools, my recorded audio is always aligned with the according midi notes

it's cause your hardware is built to run with protools not with asio drivers.

Dunno, try maybe wdm drivers if there are some, on other daw it helps a bit ( like sonar) but I doubt it's a pertinent workaround with live.

You will encounter latency troubles on any daw except protools afaik.

If you plan to make a lot of recording in live, you must look for another audio interface in my humble opinion. One of my best friend is a digidesign reseller and he stills use his motu with live cause his 002 rack is giving him probs all the time.

You're not alone in this

-B

Emissary · Post by **Emissary** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:50 pm

I once had a digi 002 rack, had it for 3 days, sent it back for a hamerfall multiface with a pci and pcmcia card. bliss, sorry about your problems, for me digidesign are just terrible

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:49 am

Laura_Live wrote:
Shouldn't Ableton move my recorded stream automatically in place??

it does this when the track your are recording on to's monitor mode is set to "off"
(you have to tell live how much it is off first)

how is your midi being played? live or played back from a sequence?

are your recording hardware?

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:57 am

As soon as I switched to Live from PT I used the 002 rack as my interface. Basically unusable. Bought an RME.

I'm on Mac.

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:29 am

sparklepuff wrote:As soon as I switched to Live from PT I used the 002 rack as my interface. Basically unusable. Bought an RME.

I'm on Mac.

my 002r worked fine for me as did my 001

now that doesn't mean that i'm not very very very glad that i don't own them anymore
and i'm sure your rme brings you much more joy (and lower latency) then your 002r ever could

but they were both stable, and you can compensate latency in live none the less.. my latency is huge on my dinosaur of a mac

Laura_Live · Post by **Laura_Live** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:22 pm

OK, shame on me.

If I set monitoring to 'off' it does indeed align the audio perfectly.

But does this mean I will never be able to listen to the audio while it is recording??

This is quite bad!

Magnetotron · Post by **Magnetotron** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:28 pm

No, typically in this situation people have 2 tracks setup; one for recording with the monitor off, and one for listening with the monitor on/auto. Just route the same audio to both tracks. It is a bus track concept and is very common.