This thread is dead. And in hell.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:16 pm

kabuki wrote:
pixelbox wrote:
kabuki wrote:... I've seen it spelled every which way.

And yes. That's the one.
Yeah, but Ockham is the correct one. Read a book.
You got me. I don't read much. When I do, only science fiction novels and fantasy.

The bible was one of them.

don't forget porn, Playboy has some great articles.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:19 pm

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:24 pm

nebulae wrote:

QUIET YOU MUSLIM HEATHEN!!

you're definitely going to hell, at least I can return to christianity after I kill some people and find God in jail to lower my sentence. you'd have to reject one religion and accept jesus, doubling your chances of pissing god off.

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:25 pm

pixelbox wrote:Oh, and by the way, Satan is a pussy and has no effect on me whatsoever.

Wow. Bold statement from a "Christian".

Isn't the reason god sent his "son" down to die for us is because of the "Sins of the Fathers" cursing each of us with the inability of free will? No act except accepting Jesus can get you into heaven because you are powerless to resist satan and evil? Glory to god because without him you would fall to evil? Sounds like without god as a crutch, you wouldsoever be effected by satan.

mohler · Post by **mohler** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:25 pm

nebulae wrote:

Love those posters!! My friend has a great one in his office that always makes me llaugh

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:44 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:the point I was trying to make is/was that religion is itself more intolerant of the myriad of variations on the concept of god etc. than atheists are intolerant of the religious.
nope. christians are more hateful of other religions than atheists. there are far more cases of christians killing people over religion than atheists doing so. there is no difference between christians and atheists when it comes to not liking religion, it's just that atheists take it one god further and christians get MUCH more pissed off about it.

if a christian's daughter brings home a muslim boyfriend that would cause a rift in the household.

if an atheist's daughter brings home a muslim boyfriend the atheist would probably roll his eyes but certainly not insist his daughter find an atheist boyfriend.

Tone read what I wrote again, slowly.... now smack yourself on the forhead and say DOH! just like Homer! Intolerant I said, not tolerant!

Fizmarble wrote: I think any atheist would want to be loved as much as anybody else, so I love them, even if they try to imply I am gay. I still love them, I still care for their souls, I still hate sin, but sin isn't a person. It's ok to hate, just not ok to hate people. True christianity is hated because it shines a glorious light on all the dark spots on sinful people. False christianity is hated because it's people behaving the same as "the world", but claiming they are saved. I hate that type of "christianity" also.

You don't get it at all? I was implying my own self as being gay. I like gay people, they rule, one is setting me up with his fag hag girlfriend right now! She's dammed hot! so I'm extra loving of the gay community!
Also read my post above, you religious people tend to turn on each other with hatred towards other religious beliefs that are not your own more than any atheist could.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:46 pm

MW - shit!! that hurt!! I should've taken my ring off.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:49 pm

mohler wrote: Love those posters!! My friend has a great one in his office that always makes me llaugh

This one is relevant to the topic!

Fizmarble · Post by **Fizmarble** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:50 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
Fizmarble wrote:
Tone Deft wrote: TRUE christianity? now you're splitting hairs among your own kind, baptists vs. methodists vs. catholics vs. episcapalians etc. I'd challenge you to find a church whose entire congregation was without piety and a sense of using their religion to judge others.
True christianity isn't different church doctrines debating the finer points, it is setting examples for how we are supposed to live, not being hypocrites, not being sinful, and loving all regardless of their religious beliefs. I think any atheist would want to be loved as much as anybody else, so I love them, even if they try to imply I am gay. I still love them, I still care for their souls, I still hate sin, but sin isn't a person. It's ok to hate, just not ok to hate people. True christianity is hated because it shines a glorious light on all the dark spots on sinful people. False christianity is hated because it's people behaving the same as "the world", but claiming they are saved. I hate that type of "christianity" also.
I'd bet we live lives with very similar morals. the difference is that you have a governing body and or peers (called the church) that guide you in what's right and wrong. for example your bible says that homosexuality is a sin, sinners go to hell, therefore gays go to hell. I have the free will to get to know gay people, understand that it's not a bad thing and accept them for what they really are. your bible decided thousands of years ago that homosexuality is an unnatural trait that's a sin and a decision.

I dunno about this True and False christianity thing, that can never end, every church claims it's the true church, every religion claims it's the true religion. again, atheists reject ALL religions, religious people reject all religions but their own.

Lets do a fun experiment. I will take a sin and replace it with another sin and see if it fits with your concept of morality.

"I'd bet we live lives with very similar morals. the difference is that you have a governing body and or peers (called the church) that guide you in what's right and wrong. for example your bible says that murder is a sin, sinners go to hell, therefore murderers go to hell. I have the free will to get to know murderous people, understand that it's not a bad thing and accept them for what they really are. your bible decided thousands of years ago that murderousness is an unnatural trait that's a sin and a decision."

Why do I think murder is wrong, cause the God said so. And if God said that wearing two different color shoe laces is wrong, I would avoid that as well. Homosexuality is unnatural, that is a fact. If the primary reason for sexual intercourse is to procreate, then homosexuality can in no way logically come from that action. It is not the norm (look at every other species of animal on the planet for the norm). But that doesn't matter. What matters is why it's not acceptable, and it's because it's using God's property in a defiling manner. If you want to throw out God's law, then you will have me and every other lawless man, running around raping, murdering, and stealing. Because that's what the most intelligent creatures in the world do, unless governed by a system of law and order. And if you think that man made laws out of his own depravity, I guess you have as much faith in mankind as I do in God. I hope that mankind doesn't disappoint you.

Fizmarble · Post by **Fizmarble** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:57 pm

Machinesworking wrote: Also read my post above, you religious people tend to turn on each other with hatred towards other religious beliefs that are not your own more than any atheist could.

I guess you haven't noticed that I haven't turned on anybody yet. As I said, I have been called to love everybody, even those that hate me. But I am going to have to love you from over here, because I have now heard you misquote biblical concepts with your strawman argument so many times that I don't think the internet has enough room for all the rebuttals and corrections it would take to fix what you have messed up. Read the bible, or at least some of it before you state what you think it says, 'cause you ain't heard right from anybody else so far.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:59 pm

Tone Deft wrote: QUIET YOU MUSLIM HEATHEN!!

you're definitely going to hell, at least I can return to christianity after I kill some people and find God in jail to lower my sentence. you'd have to reject one religion and accept jesus, doubling your chances of pissing god off.

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:01 pm

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:04 pm

Fizmarble wrote:Homosexuality is unnatural, that is a fact. If the primary reason for sexual intercourse is to procreate, then homosexuality can in no way logically come from that action. It is not the norm (look at every other species of animal on the planet for the norm).

You fucking idiot. Where do you get your facts, the church?

Also, just like you pointed out, unlike our mammalian friends that roam the Earth, HUMANS EXPERIENCE PLEASURE FROM SEX. Unlike you, who fucks your fat ugly wife just to make your 16 children so you can keep upping the numbers of your brainwashed church army.

We also watch TV, play video games, genetically alter our food, and tell our peers to believe in some made up being. I'd love to see a squirrel tell it's clan to believe in Jesus and not to steal each others nuts or fuck each other girlfriends.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:07 pm

Fizmarble wrote:
Machinesworking wrote: Also read my post above, you religious people tend to turn on each other with hatred towards other religious beliefs that are not your own more than any atheist could.
I guess you haven't noticed that I haven't turned on anybody yet.

Fizmarble wrote:I hate that type of "christianity" also.

Fizmarble · Post by **Fizmarble** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:11 pm

sparklepuff wrote:
Fizmarble wrote:Homosexuality is unnatural, that is a fact. If the primary reason for sexual intercourse is to procreate, then homosexuality can in no way logically come from that action. It is not the norm (look at every other species of animal on the planet for the norm).
You fucking idiot. Where do you get your facts, the church?

Also, just like you pointed out, unlike our mammalian friends that roam the Earth, HUMANS EXPERIENCE PLEASURE FROM SEX. Unlike you, who fucks your fat ugly wife just to make your 16 children so you can keep upping the numbers of your brainwashed church army.

We also watch TV, play video games, genetically alter our food, and tell our peers to believe in some made up being. I'd love to see a squirrel tell it's clan to believe in Jesus and not to steal each others nuts or fuck each other girlfriends.

The sad thing? The squirrels know Jesus already and have better manners than you. The bible says sex with animals is wrong, but what do it know?