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CDjing WAS lame. Now it doesn't matter, but if you think you were pioneering by spinning CDs you're wrong. Shame! you did a bad thing. There was nothing wrong with the vinyl + 2 turntables format. Goddamn! we could all be making records from 24/192k song files right now turning a profit instead of losing our shirts.
Laptop DJing is awesome because it incorporates realtime composiiton and improv
AS far as vinyl
you can buy a freaking record, read the credits, the songwriting+copyright info.You can hold it in your hands, manually track it when DJing, and it will playback 60 years beyond any hard drive. The 'warmth' associated with low freq playedback on vinyl sounds amazingand second to none on nightclub sound systems.
The 'crackle' was something that unified the format for the listener regardless of the style or genre and we are seriously lacking that perspective in the digital realm.
There is a very good chance vinyl will see a retro-comeback, because we are moving on to higher resolution files, and the world-web's bandwith does not have the ability to distribute 200-300 MEG files at a rate which matches the consumer's need... hence the MP# download stores. (the DRM debate has to be put to rest too)
We will see if Beatport can keep up technically with the consciousness of the music community, who will see more and more high resolution files being passed personally from artist to artist, and hopefully (my fingers are crossed) seeing artists returning to vinyl for dance music releases.
I would NEVER play Mp3s. That is a fucking insult to the artist, IF you can't hear the terrible sound quality of MP3s you are not listening. Have you ever heard a DJ playing MP3s and then an hour later the next DJ KILLS it and it sounds 10 times better. and you're wondering why, but invariably the 'better sounding' DJ is playin vinyl, or CDs, (or if they are still on a laptop you can bet he's playing AIFFS.)
That a world based on electronic and audio fidelity has embraced MP3 as a format has me pretty bummed, and although it's taking FOREVER to transfer my vinyl to 24/192 song files, it doesn't have to. i would love to start trading my collection with folks, contact me if you are down. House music,Techno.Most recently I transferred most of the Touche/Jark Prongo/Fresh Fruit stuff I had.
If I had the technical knowledge I would start a 'soulseek' type of forum for DJs based on trading higher res files, but I don't know how...
I don't know the legal stuff either
Laptop DJing is awesome because it incorporates realtime composiiton and improv
AS far as vinyl
you can buy a freaking record, read the credits, the songwriting+copyright info.You can hold it in your hands, manually track it when DJing, and it will playback 60 years beyond any hard drive. The 'warmth' associated with low freq playedback on vinyl sounds amazingand second to none on nightclub sound systems.
The 'crackle' was something that unified the format for the listener regardless of the style or genre and we are seriously lacking that perspective in the digital realm.
There is a very good chance vinyl will see a retro-comeback, because we are moving on to higher resolution files, and the world-web's bandwith does not have the ability to distribute 200-300 MEG files at a rate which matches the consumer's need... hence the MP# download stores. (the DRM debate has to be put to rest too)
We will see if Beatport can keep up technically with the consciousness of the music community, who will see more and more high resolution files being passed personally from artist to artist, and hopefully (my fingers are crossed) seeing artists returning to vinyl for dance music releases.
I would NEVER play Mp3s. That is a fucking insult to the artist, IF you can't hear the terrible sound quality of MP3s you are not listening. Have you ever heard a DJ playing MP3s and then an hour later the next DJ KILLS it and it sounds 10 times better. and you're wondering why, but invariably the 'better sounding' DJ is playin vinyl, or CDs, (or if they are still on a laptop you can bet he's playing AIFFS.)
That a world based on electronic and audio fidelity has embraced MP3 as a format has me pretty bummed, and although it's taking FOREVER to transfer my vinyl to 24/192 song files, it doesn't have to. i would love to start trading my collection with folks, contact me if you are down. House music,Techno.Most recently I transferred most of the Touche/Jark Prongo/Fresh Fruit stuff I had.
If I had the technical knowledge I would start a 'soulseek' type of forum for DJs based on trading higher res files, but I don't know how...
I don't know the legal stuff either
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I WILL NEVER PAY money for a mp3 file.
they sound horrible, aac too complete crap
they sound horrible, aac too complete crap
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I never thought I was pioneering when spinning CDs. What I was doing was saving an ass-ton of money by not buying vinyl, and spinning my own creations because my personal vinyl press got lost in the mail.morerecords wrote:CDjing WAS lame. Now it doesn't matter, but if you think you were pioneering by spinning CDs you're wrong. Shame! you did a bad thing. There was nothing wrong with the vinyl + 2 turntables format. Goddamn! we could all be making records from 24/192k song files right now turning a profit instead of losing our shirts.
Given the flexiblity and features of the CDJ-1000s I also don't see how "lame" CD DJing is/was. So you're not touching a record, you still have to beat match and make adjustments. If your argument is against those "do it all for you/all in one" CD systems then I would have to agree. But if you are using that argument than I can't see why you aren't dead set against laptop DJing. That's even less effort than CDs ever were.
And lastly, when I am at a venue with a decent and loud system, no I really can't tell the difference between a DJ spinning vinyl or low quality mp3s and you shouldn't expect the crowd dancing to by an audio purest. The perceived better sound of the set has less to do with audio format quality and more to do with the skill of the DJ on his/her format of choice.
fair enough it might be harsh, but neuton jumped on mp3s after they went nearly down.xzusa8ky wrote:maybe a little hard sub..i mean neuton is an really cool distribution i guess, and they do actually sell mp3's also
i just don't get it, instead of pushing the future forward, they hold onto dinosaurs.
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Dude, listen again the next time you are in a club. It is very, very obvious that MP3s do not deliver. Listen to a tracks' reverbs if you really are having trouble differentiating. Furthermore, it's about energy, not discerning hearing, and the energy shoots when you play CDs or AIFFs right after an hour of MP3s, because it defintitely feels and sounds better.
As far as DJing with CDs vs laptops or whatever, who cares about beat matching or physical control anymore? not for 10 years.
I'd rather not hear a trainwreck because some DJ is mixing in Live, and the musicianship is there wether you are tweaking knobs + effects on a controller or tweaking two records or a cd player's wheel, it's all good.
Fine so you saved a lot of money by buying CDs, it was still REALLY corny for several years, and I don't think we needed it. It's an example of equipment manufacturers' bad judgement when trying to get the DJ what they did or didn't know they were looking for. Playing off Gearlust(though not villians, just supply and demand)_
As far as DJing with CDs vs laptops or whatever, who cares about beat matching or physical control anymore? not for 10 years.
I'd rather not hear a trainwreck because some DJ is mixing in Live, and the musicianship is there wether you are tweaking knobs + effects on a controller or tweaking two records or a cd player's wheel, it's all good.
Fine so you saved a lot of money by buying CDs, it was still REALLY corny for several years, and I don't think we needed it. It's an example of equipment manufacturers' bad judgement when trying to get the DJ what they did or didn't know they were looking for. Playing off Gearlust(though not villians, just supply and demand)_
It makes them more money to sell vinyl.SubFunk wrote:fair enough it might be harsh, but neuton jumped on mp3s after they went nearly down.xzusa8ky wrote:maybe a little hard sub..
i just don't get it, instead of pushing the future forward, they hold onto dinosaurs.
Nah, lot's op people DON'T want mp3's for listening AND for dj'ing thats why shops have vinyl in stock.Rosko wrote:It makes them more money to sell vinyl.SubFunk wrote:fair enough it might be harsh, but neuton jumped on mp3s after they went nearly down.xzusa8ky wrote:maybe a little hard sub..
i just don't get it, instead of pushing the future forward, they hold onto dinosaurs.
i am glad that lot's of people don't believe in that empty medium
Mp3's is a nice promotional medium, but for a have... mwah
Mp3's are still a compressed format.Rosko wrote:You cannot tell the difference with a 320mp3 & cd in a club a long as the mp3 has been encoded & mastered correctly.
The problem with mp3 is they aren't being mastered correctly allot of the time this more so with digi only labels.
And what about the compression/saturation/distortion of vinyl itself? that character you won't have with a mp3.
Well if i really like a record i will buy it in vinyl as well, but beleive it or not vinyl is more profitable acording to record labels i've spoken to.lola wrote:Nah, lot's op people DON'T want mp3's for listening AND for dj'ing thats why shops have vinyl in stock.Rosko wrote:It makes them more money to sell vinyl.SubFunk wrote: fair enough it might be harsh, but neuton jumped on mp3s after they went nearly down.
i just don't get it, instead of pushing the future forward, they hold onto dinosaurs.
i am glad that lot's of people don't believe in that empty medium
Mp3's is a nice promotional medium, but for a have... mwah