Do I still need Recycle! now that version 7 has a slicer?

xrayfish · Post by **xrayfish** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:34 pm

...or do people need recycle! to do stuff that ableton won't? Live 7's slicer seems to do a good job of slicing up stuff like drum loops, but the options for altering the way its done seem limited in comparison.

Any opinions?

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:39 pm

You still need Recycle if you want to create Rex files. Live slices audio and reads Rex files, but can't slice audio and create a Rex file from it.

nylarch · Post by **nylarch** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:40 pm

You still need Recycle if you want to create Rex files. Live slices audio and reads Rex files, but can't slice audio and create a Rex file from it.

and Rex files are still incredibly useful.

Still amazes me that Recycle hasn't had a single update in how many years and it still is essential kit. Not one new feature but it really doesn't matter - it does what it does.

Yeh · Post by **Yeh** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:42 pm

If you only use Live and want to have sliced beats with midi files, you don't need Recycle.

If you want to make rex-files to use in Reason or Cubase, Sonar etc, you still need Recycle. Live can't export rex-files. On the other hand you can use the Live slicer with any Rewired application such as Cubase.

Recycle also has some features that aren't (so easy) to achieve with the Live slicer. Stretch amount at the end of each slice (not the usual stretching, but a very typical unique effect), ADSR envelopes on each slice, all kind of effex. You also have more control over the slices...

So it's just what you want to do with your sliced beats.

Yeh · Post by **Yeh** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:46 pm

Still amazes me that Recycle hasn't had a single update in how many years and it still is essential kit. Not one new feature but it really doesn't matter - it does what it does.

There's a beta 2.1.2 out. I'm still mourning that the props dropped hardware sampler support after 2.0.

I use both versions now: 2.0 to talk with my sampler and 2.1 on another computer.
http://www.propellerheads.se/

nylarch · Post by **nylarch** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:47 pm

isn't the beta just bringing Leopard support or is there some new functionality? sorry - too lazy to find out meself.

Yeh · Post by **Yeh** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:55 pm

nylarch wrote:isn't the beta just bringing Leopard support or is there some new functionality? sorry - too lazy to find out meself.

Afraid you're right.

I had to login to see this text:

"Propellerhead Software is very happy to announce that we are now accepting testers for ReCycle 2.1.2 which will bring compatibility for OS X 10.5 Leopard and fix an issue for Windows computers with AMD64 processors."

ambien · Post by **ambien** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:11 am

Could you please point me to the thing recycle can do and live can't. It is a serious question

I don't see it.

monoschall · Post by **monoschall** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:25 pm

ReCycle does transient detection - so you can slice to the samples groove instead of straight 8 / 16 or whatever equally distributed slices which the Live slicer does (unless you use warp markers to manually tell Live what groove the sample has).

The beta is great btw, well it doesn't crash anymore under Leopard!