Drum Racks and pK

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dru
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Drum Racks and pK

Post by dru » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:06 pm

Not sure if it's been addressed yet, but there's a bug with Drum Racks and padkontrol as a control surface. Sometimes (not too often) the pads on the pK won't be the same as the current scene set on the drum rack (eg. pad 13 on pK will play pad 1 on drum rack). But when you go to scroll up the grid to another section of the drum rack, then go back again it will work fine again.

This has happened to me a few times.

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Post by Timur » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:08 am

Try changing the Midi port your padKontrol is connected to from DirectMusic to MME. PK drivers are not native DirectMusic drivers and using emulated ones can lead to all kinds of problems.

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Post by dru » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:26 am

Where abouts do I change that? I'm on a Macbook Pro, plugged through USB.

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Post by Timur » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:56 am

Sorry then, this is a Windows only setting. ;)

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Post by dru » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:34 am

Anyone else experience this?

I've now set my startup template to have Drum Rack, armed on the first channel and the bug is consistant now. Eg, when I start up Live now with the pK on and press a pad, it won't be the same pad on the drum rack. But going to a different section on the grid of the drum rack, then going back again, it will be fine.

Ableton? Aware of this?

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Post by dru » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:46 pm

Aaargghh?

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Post by dru » Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:20 pm

BUMP.

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Post by stutter » Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:35 pm

Timur, how do you do that on Windows then?

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Post by Timur » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:22 pm

Preferences -> Midi, click on the little arrow left to the Port Name, change Port Type to MME.

Do that for all USB midi ports and all virtual midi ports (MidiYoke etc).

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Post by stutter » Wed Dec 26, 2007 4:14 pm

thanks Timur, that seems to have done the trick. Always nice to learnn something useful here.

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Doesn't change anything

Post by UNISUN » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:15 am

Hi,
I'm more than just a little frustrated with this. XP Pro SP2 running Live 7, padkontrol doesn't do anything like the vid with drumracks. I set everything up a dozen different ways, including the MME setting...which was amazing. I still get the padkontrol just hitting normal notes regardless of the pad selector position on the right.

What is going on?!
SHINING LOVE INFINITY

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Post by dru » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:38 am

Just for future reference, I got a reply from Ableton saying they're aware of the problem and it will be fixed in the next update.

UNISUN, reset your pK (hold SCENE, press FIXED VELOCITY then press SETTING while it's flashing). Then set it up in Live again by enabling the control surface and Input, then enabling Track and Remote for PADKONTROL PORT A.

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Post by Casual Beats » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:35 am

thanks Timur and Dru. I finally got it working because of your posts :)

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Post by Bboy23 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:15 pm

still get the padkontrol just hitting normal notes regardless of the pad selector position on the rig
Same problem on MacBook pro tho with Padkontrol and Live 7 anyone that can help me out.....
Many thanks in advance

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