attn: Web Gurus / Programmers

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Re: attn: Web Gurus / Programmers

Post by mikemc » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:57 pm

shaffer wrote: Now, if you are wanting the CD to be physically burned, the burning process would have to take place on the server (and then you'd have to mail the CD). You'd need to create a mutex around the burning process. There's not a unique filename type solution to a physical drive.
Pretty sure that what he's looking for is a way to put a "Burn to CD" button on his music project website. When preseed, some stuff happens TBD, then user is prompted "make sure there's a CD in the drive and press 'Create CrazeeCOSMCDTM'" user does so and the tracks in question are burned on user's local machine.
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Post by noisetonepause » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Why do you think this is a good idea? I shirley don't want to allow random web browsers to start random CD-burning processes on my computer at their leisure.

You can't do it without, in some way, making the user download an application anyways. Whether or not it *looks* like the user is downloading an app is another thing, but it would require work, and the same several times over for different platforms. And from the users POV there are serious security implications. I don't think there's any way you're going to get a modern operating system to burn a CD with one click on a button on your web site.
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by noisetonepause » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:13 pm

membrain wrote:Both Windows and OS X have the ability to burn CD's without additional software.
Yes, but calling these functions from inside a web browser is going to be difficult at best.. and for a reason..

Ehh,, I don't hate to be a naysayer..
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by Metaphreaq » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:18 am

Metaphreaq wrote:CD burning generally requires (or people like to use)
membrain wrote:Both Windows and OS X have the ability to burn CD's without additional software.
Note the "or people like to use part" I really think the CD burning interface in XP sucks, OS X I'm not as familiar with.

And outside of this point entirely:

Who really uses CD's anymore? Personally I buy the vast majority of my music online, and I'm exploring netlabels currently. Very limited CDR releases or vinyl are purchases, but if I need to burn a disc, it's usually a quanitity of mp3's or a selection of songs I enjoy.

Having a browser based thing access my hardware, is something I would not want, and if that is the way someone distributed their music, they are disrespecting my personal web security (imho). Give me high quality MP3's for my money..

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Post by mdk » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:55 am

forget cd's. offer flac for download.
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Post by forge » Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:42 pm

I have to say I agree with the people saying why bother....IMO you might be better offerring a link to iTunes or Media player, but both are included with OSX and Windows

maybe if you just included the WPL file or whatever the iTunes equivalent is for a playlist so that they download the whole package and it opens up in their chosen player already as a playlist so they only need to burn the p/l to CD

I've just done it twice tonight from both WMP and iTunes and it's really not rocket science - create playlist->burn to disc

I dont think there is any point trying to fight that, the effort required to create the tools would far outweigh the labour saving benefits

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Post by beats me » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:20 pm

This doesn't burn CDs but I think the best way to get music to people right now is podcasts that they can subscribe to which automatically puts new material on their computer whenever you upload and they start itunes. It keeps them from having to track down artists and also date stamps the tracks so you know when they were released. You can do this for free through podomattic.com.

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Post by Moody » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:47 pm

This is not an easy task to say but, certainly not impossible. Many questions need to be answered though....

What do you plan to use on the back end? (OS, Webserver, Languages, etc...)

Here is an activex component that can be used...
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programmin ... trol.shtml

The biggest problem is that most web browsers are going to take a negative action towards your code. This is not a behavior that most people want random websites to have.
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Post by bathyscaaf » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:33 am

If you are looking for a browser specific solution, a custom ActiveX control (IE only) or perhaps Java are the only things that come to mind.

There is a very good reason browsers do not give websites access to a user's file system. I think most people would be more comfortable, from a security standpoint, with an application (I certainly would).

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