crack ableton live 4

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:05 am

Alex Reynolds wrote:
Martyn wrote:Sorry man, i hope that wasn't a portrait

Niiiicccce.

What are you wearing underneath? Something smooth and skimpy maybe?

Come on man you can tell us, it's ok to have these sort of feelings nowadays.

I'm imagining that it might be a suspender belt and thong?

Ouch! I can't go on, not sure i can get these images out of my head

I Pencilneck · Post by **I Pencilneck** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:20 am

baahhh......I don't see what the big deal is. frankly I love cracked shit. can't get enough come to think of it. see, the way I look at it, it gives the prodcut even more recognition and thats a good thing. besides, most of the wankers who download it will never produce anything commercialy decent, so think of them as bedroom noodlers expermenting with the stuff. totally harmless if you ask me. call it goodwill. believe me these softaudio compnaies are making plenty of jack selling this stuff

Beatworld · Post by **Beatworld** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:28 am

spiderprod wrote:it was not a poor joke , it was to make you all talk on stupid things.
the first punk who answer insult me & like a chain reaction all the rats behind him can't see further that him.

I have just re-read the original post and try as I might I just can't see anything joke-like or funny about it spiderprod.

Maybe its me. If it was designed to make us all "talk on stupid things" then maybe you have succeeeded.

The other option is of course that you were serious with the first post and when you read the reaction you felt bad or wished you hadn't made the first post and so the best way to try and improve the situation was to come up with the "it was to make you all talk on stupid things" concept.

The only person who knows the truth is you.

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:34 am

hiveminded · Post by **hiveminded** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:38 am

I Pencilneck wrote:baahhh......I don't see what the big deal is. frankly I love cracked shit. can't get enough come to think of it. see, the way I look at it, it gives the prodcut even more recognition and thats a good thing. besides, most of the wankers who download it will never produce anything commercialy decent, so think of them as bedroom noodlers expermenting with the stuff. totally harmless if you ask me. call it goodwill. believe me these softaudio compnaies are making plenty of jack selling this stuff

no. see, they can never really be making too much 'jack'.

the more money they make is the more resources they have to make the software better for you and me, and it ensure that there can be another version.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:54 am

Anonymous wrote:I think its really shitty cracking Live 4...the abletons are just a bunch of cool people like ourselves, into tunes, making music and cool software. I can understand people cracking microsoft office, but cracking Live is like stealing off a member of your family...the folks that cracked Live 4 must have zero morals...

0.02

Russian crackwhores.

skiptracer · Post by **skiptracer** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:58 am

i'm only using ableton because of a crack.

i'm a little tempted to think that ableton is distributing cracks because all of the ableton cracks iv'e used somehow stop working after a certain amount of time. fortunately for ableton i did not find the file you have to delete in order to end this time limit, however with my version 3 crack i did. i won't be cracking v. 4.

Lucid · Post by **Lucid** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:54 am

spiderprod wrote:it was not a poor joke , it was to make you all talk on stupid things.
the first punk who answer insult me & like a chain reaction all the rats behind him can't see further that him.

Who you callin' punk, punk? Do you want to be destroyed?

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:17 am

aren't most cracks these days Key Generators? since NI and Ableton are using challenge codes, which are basically just mathematical equations... i.e. your serial # plus/minus/dividedby/multiplied/etc. by this random Challenge code that is generated by the software = the Response key. Figure out the equation, and you figure out the Response key. Key Generator programs are simply preloaded with the equation instructions and you type in the 2 parameters (serial and challenge #'s) and you get the answer (response key)

if anything wouldn't a key generator be the safest way to crack software?
since using a keygenerator doesnt cripple the software at all, it just tricks it into thinking that Ableton or NI has authorized it for Full usage instead of limited Demo usage.

what i am saying is... i doubt Ableton is releasing cracks purposefully.
The Demo is their way of promoting the software to potential buyers - no need for a crack, but unfortunately some people have figured out how to unlock the demos.

Sheridan · Post by **Sheridan** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:30 am

IMO, any way you break it down, people who use cracked warez are basically thieves. I realize there are a lot of unfortunate souls out there who don't have the budget to buy software, but these products are intellectual rights and you should pony up if you want the goods. Everyone has to eat.

Regarding these crackers, my understanding of the way it works is that there are a lot of groups out there that break these codes as sort of a challenge of their skills and intellect...sort of a competition to see who can crack and post the most stuff. The internet is the perfect distribution mechanism, so there you go. I think it sucks but that's the way it is. The only trick that seems to work is the 'ol dongle approach. Maybe all of the softaudio vendors should get together and devise a universal USB dongle that would store a special downloaded key upon purchase for whatever products you want to install. Tie the key to a complex ID made up of a license number + machine ID + MAC Address + IP Address or something like that.

2kilo · Post by **2kilo** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:16 am

I buy my software these days but...

Cracks made 3DMax, Adobe, Quark and Dreamweaver the top selling, most used software, in their fields. Adobe were said to have put out cracks on the sly to promote themselves...

Its not worth the hassle [IMHO], if you gonna produce something, buying takes away the worry about if this or that crack is effecting the audio code and therefore your sound...?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:01 am

Sheridan wrote:
Regarding these crackers, my understanding of the way it works is that there are a lot of groups out there that break these codes as sort of a challenge of their skills and intellect...sort of a competition to see who can crack and post the most stuff. The internet is the perfect distribution mechanism, so there you go. I think it sucks but that's the way it is.

Totally right .. it's just a game for those people and if you search a little more on that topic .. they do have terrabytes of games, movies, programs, and more.. mostly BEFORE they are released.. but it's a game of who's the first group to come out with a release and there is a cooperation between (inside) hackers (providing the software) and crackers (making it work) .. it's one big scene .. underground.. It sucks big time but can't be stopped.. and dongles aren't a solution..

Fred

majestic · Post by **majestic** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:53 am

Sheridan wrote:The only trick that seems to work is the 'ol dongle approach.

No, the dongle can be cracked. I saw a krack of Cubase SX 2.2 in Hong Kong a couple of weeks ago (SX uses a dongle).

I don't own any pirate software and I never will. However, I'd say there's a 90% chance I could have a krack of Live 4 in my hands 30 minutes from now by simply driving across the border to Johor Bahru in Malaysia and giving 'em 3 bucks. There is no question that Live 4 would not already be cracked, they're that fast at doing it.

It's sad and annoying but that's just the way it is. And don't necessarily blame the locals - most of the people crowding the krack shops are obviously tourists.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:51 am

Krack shops? Damn.....

I believe there is a line to "share the wealth"
Sure you could download en crack whatever you want, but where's the fullfillment.
Live is the best buy i ever did. Just owning it made me feel better. And i can bet this is not only me feeling that.
It's like buying yourself into a family, cracking it just makes you the bastard-child.
I agree some stuff arent worth buying or are overpriced.
But that does not make up for stealing.
Buy Live and live a little.....

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:11 am

Anonymous wrote:One question... not that I support using unauthorized software but what would you do if you could not afford Live?

Tell you to not use it and check out the alternatives? There's plenty of freeware/cheapware out there, and if you're using Linux (or switched over), well, goes without saying...

Alternatively, you could stay off the booze and fags for a month and you'd have yer money right there... at least if you're anything like me

-Paws