PHAT BEATS -- the percussion routing of the nefilim

The Phat Conductor · Post by **The Phat Conductor** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:02 pm

i have templates with finished songs, mixed down and everything, but i sell them and don't want to give away free ones.

i will however answer questions here for free.

the drum bus and bass bus should have 'audio from: no input' and 'audio to: master' they should also be set to monitoring 'in' status.

then every other track that has drums on it - 'audio to: drum bus' and every track that has bass 'audio to: bass bus' etc.

you set an fx send to 'pre' over on the right. each send knob has a global 'pre' vs. 'post' fader option over on the right. if you can see the knobs you will see it on the audio track 'master'

hope this helps.

all the best.

dylan

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:14 pm

The Phat Conductor wrote:i have templates with finished songs, mixed down and everything, but i sell them and don't want to give away free ones.

I could almost guarantee that if you posted a stripped down version with the bare minimum you'd get more sales. Users would get what it is, get hooked on it and want more.

This is a case to argue for another type of save in Live, one where people could use the .als but not modify or save it, I think Reason has a feature like that.

I'll trade you my juice box for a .als.

The Phat Conductor · Post by **The Phat Conductor** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:41 pm

can i get a piece of your juicy box instead

arf arf arf.

yea i'll think about it. i might do a dvd actually, but i have to finish my band album and get ready to move to san francisco first. i've started working on it though, so someday soon. when i get that done i'll post up a bunch of teaser .als jobbies for you guys.

thanks for reading. have fun with your percussion

d

adidasguy · Post by **adidasguy** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:35 pm

Thanks for the great explanation Dylan... I will try this ASAP

In thinking of what you were trying to do, I came up with the following below....

I will compare sonically how things sound the way you describe, vs how things sound the way I describe

Let me know when you're in SF....

Thanks again!
Dominique

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I believe I conceptually understand what is being described.

The idea is take crossfade between a phat track with no crazy fx applied to it (like stuttering etc), and another track that has crazy effects applied to it.

I just started running into a situation where when I crossfaded to the track playing the fx version, no sound would come out because the original audio....

UPDDATE.... I'll post a set soon, but I think I figured out a different way of doing what I wanted....

track #1
input track / "track with audio"
monitor off:
audio to: sends only

track #2
"dry" track
crossfade: a
monitor: in
audio from: "track with audio" (track #1 above)
audio to: master

track #3
"fx/wet track"
crossfade: b
monitor: in
audio from: "track with audio" (track #1 above)
audio to: master
add fx units as desired

(ie beat repeat interval 1/16, offset 0, grid 1/256, variation: 10, chance 100%, gate 4 bar, pitch 0 st, pitch delay 100%, volume 6.0 db, decay 0.00%)

The idea is you want to *quickly* crossfade between track 2 ("dry") and track 3 ("fxed" track) - hint put keyboard shortcuts on both sides of the crossfader, you can then dummy clip away on the fx track

Let me know how this works out for you guys or tips on how you would augment this setup above

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The Phat Conductor wrote:i have templates with finished songs, mixed down and everything, but i sell them and don't want to give away free ones.

i will however answer questions here for free.

the drum bus and bass bus should have 'audio from: no input' and 'audio to: master' they should also be set to monitoring 'in' status.

then every other track that has drums on it - 'audio to: drum bus' and every track that has bass 'audio to: bass bus' etc.

you set an fx send to 'pre' over on the right. each send knob has a global 'pre' vs. 'post' fader option over on the right. if you can see the knobs you will see it on the audio track 'master'

hope this helps.

all the best.

dylan

adidasguy · Post by **adidasguy** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:36 pm

I forgot - thanks for sharing those cool mp3s on your website!

The Phat Conductor wrote:can i get a piece of your juicy box instead arf arf arf.

yea i'll think about it. i might do a dvd actually, but i have to finish my band album and get ready to move to san francisco first. i've started working on it though, so someday soon. when i get that done i'll post up a bunch of teaser .als jobbies for you guys.

thanks for reading. have fun with your percussion

d

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:04 pm

While this thread is back - what the hell is a nefilim?

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:15 pm

Patch wrote:While this thread is back - what the hell is a nefilim?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim_% ... guation%29

actually, still not sure...

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:22 pm

a very cool band, which I remember (from MTV's 120 minutes like 15 years ago) being named after the biblical reference.

The Phat Conductor · Post by **The Phat Conductor** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:57 pm

hey, for your crossfade jobby, you should check out the supatrigga crossfade technique here: http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... +crossfade

thanks tricil.

and re: nefilim - i was referring to the badass dejmigod master race from ancient mythology/conspiracy theory.

womoma · Post by **womoma** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:45 pm

Really kool tutorial Phatty.

Landser · Post by **Landser** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:58 am

From time to time i come across the word "nefilim". What does it mean?

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:37 pm

Landser wrote:From time to time i come across the word "nefilim"

its biblical, look it up, its one of the more interesting parts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim wrote:"In the Torah and several non-canonical Jewish and early Christian writings, nephilim (Hebrew, הנּפלים, those causing others to fall) are a people created by the crossbreeding of the sons of God (b'nei elohim, בני האלהים) and the "daughters of men"[1]. The word nephilim is loosely translated as giants or titans in some translations of the Bible, and is left as nephilim in others:

When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown"

great thread, cheers for the tips

Landser · Post by **Landser** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:14 pm

bufferstroker · Post by **bufferstroker** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:26 am

fantastic tutorial man, the demo song sounds shmick as bro.....big ups for all your work!!!

Hesh · Post by **Hesh** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:40 am

bro you should be creating music for games.......cause theres like a gagillion dollars in that field......just moves to japan and work with square enix.