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Post by Yhtomit » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:25 pm

Tarekith wrote:I was on the Virus TI beta team, and it was NOT because of power of CPU issues. The main reason 1.1 was used in stead of two, was that the USB hardware and chipsets (I forget the actual term Access used) related USB audio transfers was not readily available on USB2.0 at the time, which would have meant Access would have had to develop these from scratch, It would have added significantly to the price of what is already an expensive synth.

Don't get me wrong, I too would have loved to see a firewire or USB2 version, but for the current specs, the USB1.1 spec is more than enough for the TI's.
Hi Tarekith, you might be correct. But most vendors do use USB 1.1 because of these "issues" I wrote earlier..

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Post by aqua_tek » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:37 pm

My TI works perfectly with USB 1.1. don't know what y'all are crying about

that Snow looks like a nice little synth!

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Post by Caymus Cab » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:48 pm

I have a question regarding TI technology..

From what I gather, you basically load the virus as if it was a software synth in your computer right? The only difference here is that the sound is coming from the Virus and not using the computer's CPU? And lastly, the polyphony is dependant on the Virus, not your computer? If I'm understanding this correctly, how many individual tracks (from the Virus) can travel through USB to your computers DAW input channels?
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Post by aqua_tek » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:00 pm

Caymus Cab wrote:I have a question regarding TI technology..

From what I gather, you basically load the virus as if it was a software synth in your computer right? The only difference here is that the sound is coming from the Virus and not using the computer's CPU? And lastly, the polyphony is dependant on the Virus, not your computer? If I'm understanding this correctly, how many individual tracks (from the Virus) can travel through USB to your computers DAW input channels?
yeah that's essentially it. You see it as a software synth but all (or most) of the load falls on the virus itself.

USB allows you to have 2 stereo tracks or 4 mono tracks running from the virus. To take advantage of all 16 parts, you'd have to rely on its analog outputs

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Post by thefool » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:54 pm

aqua_tek wrote: USB allows you to have 2 stereo tracks or 4 mono tracks running from the virus. To take advantage of all 16 parts, you'd have to rely on its analog outputs
Thats not a lot eventually.
But then again, you could just record the audio tracks.

Is it possible to run, lets say, 1 stereo and 2 mono's?

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Post by Kodama » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:03 pm

This thing has no real interface,

I would rather just keep using Zebra or get something like a G2 engine if I needed hardware w/no interface...
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Post by thefool » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:12 pm

Kodama wrote:This thing has no real interface,

I would rather just keep using Zebra or get something like a G2 engine if I needed hardware w/no interface...
true but if its a real virus sound for 700$ thats cheaper than using powercore even

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Post by Kodama » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:22 pm

The Virus sounds ok, and it's pretty versatile for a HW synth, but I swear Zebra sounds better & is way more versatile to me.
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Post by thefool » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:25 pm

For the sounds i look for, at least i found the sound demo's at access way more usefull than the zebra ones :/

Haven't really spent much time with zebra anyway.

Is the zebra really able to do those airy pikes and chords like
the virus? and those swelling pads

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Post by Tarekith » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:43 pm

Zebra is definitely way more flexible, it's what I switched to after selling my TI. That said, hardware has it's uses, I'm putting together a live set that doesn't rely on software at all, and this fits the bill.

Howard Scarr was the one who wrote the Virus synthesis tutorials that come with the Virus, as well as being a fellow beta tester. Lately all he's been doing is Zebra2 stuff, including all the presets that come with Z2.2. Take that as you will :)

They both sound great, and they both have their uses.

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Post by thefool » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:51 pm

Tarekith wrote:Take that as you will :).
:)

Well I suppose all i can do is to get the manual and read it, then play with it.

But right now i'm more looking after Reason as i mentioned in another thread (200€ upgrade. got the adapted with my padkontrol apperently)

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Post by aqua_tek » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:15 pm

Tarekith wrote: They both sound great, and they both have their uses.
+1

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Post by mohler » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:44 pm

I've been at work all day and missed this one!

Wow. I'm almost crying with the beauty of it all!

This may upset my plans to get a Nord Wave.....
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Post by thefool » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:48 pm

mohler wrote: Wow. I'm almost crying with the beauty of it all!
It frightens me :p

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Post by beats me » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:53 pm

Just to sidejack this post and to not start a new one, are there any useful tutorials out there for Zebra2? I can't wrap my head around it and therefor don't quite get it.

To stay with the spirit of this post, I had (have, don't ask) a Virus Indigo and couldn't get my head around that either.

Both of these are claimed to be great but for me greatness also includes being able to do something with them without needing a degree in sound synthesis.

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