Creating Original Tracks with Ableton

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
leedsquietman
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Post by leedsquietman » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:36 am

DJ Blueshift - How are you using Live?

If you are just throwing together some samples and loops or leaning heavily on the preset clips then yes, I can see how limited it is. (as would any other software be)

I own Cubase and Reason. Look at a blank template on Cubase and tell me how inspirational that is to you?

How inspiring is this
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With session view, you can arrange and compose much more easily and quickly than having to plod along in Cubase. Live has some very innovative effects that you can actually tweak (avoiding presets is always a good way to be less rigid and repetitive).

The clip envelopes allow you to perform all kind of fast innovative editing of volume, panning, automation curves etc. Cubase sucks at timestretching (especially SX3 and previous releases, they cannot handle variable tempo without extensive manual editing of markers).

Do you have the Live suite - try some of the instruments, USe Sampler creatively. If you are not keen on tweaking presets, Covert Operators and Puremagnetik have some fantastic tools and sounds for Live.

Program your own beats in the drum racks in Live 7, rather than using the preset clips. Maybe get a couple of quality virtual instruments to compliment Live's devices or learn how to program racks or macros and tweak the sh*t out of your MIDI controller.
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Post by leisuremuffin » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:56 am

could you make this in live?


http://pown.alluc.org/?uid=690



i think not. you NEED pantaloons superiour. version mobius.





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Post by Tone Deft » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:41 am

:lol:

www.archive.org for short clips. wow. some of these are good, I dig this one
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Post by roach808 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:09 am

I always felt everything i produced/created/recorded in Cubase SX sounded flat and boring next to all my Ableton Live session. My 2cents.....
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Post by liveISlife » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:26 am

roby wrote:with Protools you can track Walt Disney's Fantasia in one hour
DAM, I need protools! :D

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Re: Creating Original Tracks with Ableton

Post by Idonotlikebroccoli » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:31 pm

djblueshift wrote:Do any of you feel that Ableton is somewhat limited with the tools it has for creating original tracks?

I feel that most of the tracks I've made sound too electronic and I can't seem to step outside the realm of techno.

Should I invest in other software as well? Some say Cubase is better for producing tracks... do any of you agree?

Blueshift
I feel that Live is MUCH better than other software I've tried for making original tracks.

In your case though, get Cubase. It sounds about 42% less electronic than Live and increases the warmth of your songs by 30 degrees celcius.

Seriously, it's all about the user. People created their own tracks on atari machines and didn't feel limitations. Live is practically limitless, so don't blame it on the software. ;)

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