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Timur
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Post by Timur » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:28 am

Windows only: If the DebugOption “-_EnsureKeyMessagesForPlugins” is set in the Options.txt, we make sure that all key messages reach a plugin’s window in front. That way, edit fields are again editable in the NI VST plug-ins. On the downside, key messages do not reach Live anymore as soon as some objects in the window of the VST plug-in are selected. Thus, for example, once an edit field has been edited, Live’s playback cannot be started via Space until Live’s main window regains focus.
Are there any drawbacks? I was told by support that Live complies to Steinberg's VST Standard to the letter and that NI changed their plugins one by one which seems to cause the problems. There surely must be a reason why Live handles this different by default. So will we break anything by applying this option?

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Post by Alex » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:01 am

So will we break anything by applying this option?
We cannot answer that question at the current time, and for that reason it is "Options.txt" file entry only and not the default behavior.
In general the drawback is that on certain conditions, keystrokes do not reach Live anymore when a certain plug-in windows is opened.
There surely must be a reason why Live handles this different by default.
The basic idea in Live is to forward a certain keystroke to an opened plug-in window or to Live. So that for instance, you can have focused the VST plug-in but still can use the Space key to start/stop Live.

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/Alex

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Post by Filament74 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:28 am

So, tempo problem and Midi input problem under rewire mode (with Logic 8)has not been fixed yet right?

Seems like it is still there...or am i missing something?

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Post by djsynchro » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:53 pm

What about this especially the pencil draw envelope bug

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=

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Post by Alex » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:04 pm

What about this especially the pencil draw envelope bug
If you mean the drawing before the 1.1.1 marker, that should be fixed since 7.0.2b2:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82360
When using a clip with the 1.1.1 marker somewhere within the clip, it would not be possible to draw any linked clip envelope before the 1.1.1 clip start marker.
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Re: Next Live 7.0.2 Beta available: Live 7.0.2b3!

Post by Strauzzie » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:17 am

Clearscreen wrote:
arachnaut wrote:
Alex wrote: Windows only: If the DebugOption “-_EnsureKeyMessagesForPlugins” is set in the Options.txt, we make sure that all key messages reach a plugin’s window in front. That way, edit fields are again editable in the NI VST plug-ins. On the downside, key messages do not reach Live anymore as soon as some objects in the window of the VST plug-in are selected. Thus, for example, once an edit field has been edited, Live’s playback cannot be started via Space until Live’s main window regains focus.

Editing in Reaktor works fine with this fix.
not so much a fix as a workaround - might be better in the long run though...
This doesn't appear to be working for me.. I'm trying to rename destination assignments in Kore 2 and it won't send keyboard input to the channels.

Also, my preferences.cfg file is located at

C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Ableton\Live 7.0.1\Preferences

which, according to the options.txt FAQ should only be for Live 5??
Win Live 5: C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Ableton\Live [version]\Preferences\Options.txt

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