Ambient Jam

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:22 am

any feedback re mix or how to get the drums to sit better would be appreciated.

http://acidboxblues.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... float.html

cheers

you can grab it here
http://www.thisisnotlondon.com/mp3/dub_float.mp3

or improved one here:
http://thisisnotlondon.com/mp3/dub_float_eq_01.mp3

Affiliation · Post by **Affiliation** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:35 am

skipping audio mate, can't seem to get it to play through. seems like a cool tune!

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:54 am

you can download it from the ijigg page here
http://www.ijigg.com/songs/V2B4FA04PB0

might play better than streaming

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:56 am

got anywhere to download from that doesn't require registration?

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:05 pm

yeah you can grab it here
http://www.thisisnotlondon.com/mp3/dub_float.mp3

mook@skewer · Post by **mook@skewer** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:23 pm

Nice mellow feel to it. You're right about the drums though, they sound a bit like they're from another track. Upping the volume would be a start, and get some EQ on it to bring out the top end a bit. There's always compression to bring them out a bit too.

Are the drums a loop or midi? Could add some different effects on seperate parts of them to widen the sound a little too.

Otherwise, nice

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:19 pm

the drums are from my ER1 and recorded into live
thanks to the feedback, will have a listen with wider drum sound

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:18 am

i'll leave it up on my ftp for a few days

fingerprince · Post by **fingerprince** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:33 pm

Nice feel to the music
But not to be too harsh about it those drums are hideous IMO
I wouldnt bother fiddling with the drums
Your time would be better spent just completely redoing them (maybe from within live?)
I only say this because the rest of the track is really worth the effort it will take

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:01 am

any more?

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:19 am

fingerprince wrote:Nice feel to the music
But not to be too harsh about it those drums are hideous IMO
I wouldnt bother fiddling with the drums
Your time would be better spent just completely redoing them (maybe from within live?)
I only say this because the rest of the track is really worth the effort it will take

i agree.. the drums/ percussion need more of electric/synthetic feel, more blips n click and maybe some noise shaker

i'll revisit and repost

cheers

Broken Chip · Post by **Broken Chip** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:54 am

Hey dude,

sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Overall it's a good tune, however, the mix really needs to be sorted...not just the drums. I think that you should pull all your levels down for each track to give yourself some more headroom. This way you can get the drums to sit better within the mix. Turn your amp or speakers up to counteract the low volume.

The overall mix may sound alot quieter than before, but you should be able to get more control with the drum track.

You need to use some eqing on a few sounds around the lower end, I feel they're getting in the way of the drums. Just reduce the gain a little should do the trick.

Since the track will be lower in volume, I recommend a bit of "Ghetto mastering", to do this a mix-down will be required. Simply render to disc a stereo file of the tune with the master fader set to 0db. Then create a new session and place your stereo mix-down in it. To boost the signal and to get it sounding sharper and phatter, use a multi-band eq and compressor on the master strip.

You need to get it up to around the same volume as a commercial track, so use a tune that is similar to yours as a reference.

You will have to figure out what settings to use with the multy and eq, but let your ears work that out.

It may be good idea to record the drums again. Try to get a nice level into your audio interface. In live make sure the level is around -18db with the peaks at around -9db before you record.

Hope it helps.

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:40 am

thanks for that gives more something to work on

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:44 am

now with new percussive bits

http://thisisnotlondon.com/mp3/dub_float_eq_01.mp3

Broken Chip · Post by **Broken Chip** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:42 am

The percusion sounds way brighter now. Nice work. Now get the drums in.