recording with my turntables using ableton 6 please help me

mutual greenhit · Post by **mutual greenhit** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:08 am

i use ableton 6 just to record myself when i play on my turntables.... recently i see i can do this recording automation... is anyone familiar with that?? id like to see a lil more than just a sound wave when i record... id like to see what im doing to you know what i mean? can i do that when i record on my tables? would i have to program my mixer to ableton somehow? hows that work? plese help me ....

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:12 am

you need a mixer that sends midi.

mutual greenhit · Post by **mutual greenhit** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:44 am

Tone Deft wrote:you need a mixer that sends midi.

does a Numark DXM09 send midi? or check it out... i have an maudio fast track pro sound card... that has midi hook ups in the back... but not my mixer... how could a jimmy rig this? lol the mixer has balanced L & R 1/4 jacks,.... can i get that to midi cord & do it???

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:49 am

if your mixer has a midi out (or maybe a USB port) then it can send Midi. otherwise youre fresh outta luck. Jeebus himself couldnt jury rig that.

mutual greenhit · Post by **mutual greenhit** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:56 am

adventurepants_ wrote:if your mixer has a midi out (or maybe a USB port) then it can send Midi. otherwise youre fresh outta luck. Jeebus himself couldnt jury rig that.

i have a midi out & a midi in on my sound card.... along with 2 mic/inst 1/4 jacksalong with some trc 1/4 jack inputs & outputs along with some rca plugs... & also the sound card is usb... my mixer has alot of hook ups on it but no midi or usb... i use monster cable rca-1/4 jacks from the back of my mixer to the sound card to record into ableton... theres no way i can somehow do some crazy loop or something? theres gotta be some kinda way to go through the sound card before it goes to ableton right?

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:17 am

mutual greenhit wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:you need a mixer that sends midi.
does a Numark DXM09 send midi?

it does not, try google.

mutual greenhit · Post by **mutual greenhit** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:43 am

ok so basically i gotta go spend $1500 on the pioneer mixer... the one i will never be able to afford... lol

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:44 am

or just record your shit without editing the fader later.

PRACTICE!!

mutual greenhit · Post by **mutual greenhit** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:27 am

Tone Deft wrote:or just record your shit without editing the fader later. PRACTICE!!

ive been practicing for 2 years now im sick of practicing im ready hahaha

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:44 am

i bet at least several of your mixing heroes didnt have no midi DJ mixer. and they got by juussst fine.

do y'all think youre better than them? do ya?

huh?

pretty midi-fader boy? (or girl, im just sayin)

mutual greenhit · Post by **mutual greenhit** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:37 am

adventurepants_ wrote:i bet at least several of your mixing heroes didnt have no midi DJ mixer. and they got by juussst fine.

do y'all think youre better than them? do ya?

huh?

pretty midi-fader boy? (or girl, im just sayin)

hahahaha ibet my 6 yr old daughter could match a beat & effect a song live better than you could using your lil ableton program hahaha

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:19 am

Why not record into live directly, with NO volume/eq/effects, then apply all that shit later?

Just pan each of your decks all the way left or right ( left deck = pan left/right deck = pan right) then get a couple of Y-splitter cables. Record each deck into a separate track in Ableton Live (from your mixers master out ("L" white = Left Deck, "R" Red = Right Deck), then edit the volume envelopes once the whole set is recorded in Arrange View...

OR - you could just do what the rest of us do, and record all your tunes into Live, warp 'em, and get a little stoopid. You could have 2 tracks playing in live, and have 'em routed to the line in on your dj mixer. So, effectively, you're using Live as 2 turntables. Heres the kicker - your warped tracks in live will always be perfectly beatmatched...

Also - you can flip one of the line switches to Phono, and play vinyl/scratch over the tracks being played from Live.

Live PISSES on turntables for mixing/editing/remixing/mashing - but you CAN'T beat scratching vinyl over your Live mix. That shit is fun!

Head over to AbletonLiveDJ - the guys there will sort you out.

mutual greenhit · Post by **mutual greenhit** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:09 am

Patch wrote:Why not record into live directly, with NO volume/eq/effects, then apply all that shit later?

Just pan each of your decks all the way left or right ( left deck = pan left/right deck = pan right) then get a couple of Y-splitter cables. Record each deck into a separate track in Ableton Live (from your mixers master out ("L" white = Left Deck, "R" Red = Right Deck), then edit the volume envelopes once the whole set is recorded in Arrange View...

OR - you could just do what the rest of us do, and record all your tunes into Live, warp 'em, and get a little stoopid. You could have 2 tracks playing in live, and have 'em routed to the line in on your dj mixer. So, effectively, you're using Live as 2 turntables. Heres the kicker - your warped tracks in live will always be perfectly beatmatched...

Also - you can flip one of the line switches to Phono, and play vinyl/scratch over the tracks being played from Live.

Live PISSES on turntables for mixing/editing/remixing/mashing - but you CAN'T beat scratching vinyl over your Live mix. That shit is fun!

Head over to AbletonLiveDJ - the guys there will sort you out.

basically i do record live... i believe i record in session view though... i dont really edit anything... i record & i use effects & what i play is what you get lol... maybe i can send someone a file & show me what you can do with it i have no idea what your talkin about... i have no idea how to use ableton... the program simply confuses me haha i tried to put limiters & compression on a few of my mixes & i think it makes it sound like crap...just for teh record my 6 year old doesnt mix i dont mean to start a piddly lil pissin match

mutual greenhit · Post by **mutual greenhit** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:08 am

hey thanks for that websites & all the advice poeples.... moocho appreciated

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:22 am

You have to eat more roast beef.